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3D Printing - who has mastered this?

Just when I'm like "Bite the bullet, buy once cry once" and along comes Blue Pooper (Thanks Steve) with some good solid advice. Sigh. This is why I waver. I do think that I'd go for the A1 over the mini just for the bigger space. But then, when you pay for that....you might as well....

and so it goes.
 
Just when I'm like "Bite the bullet, buy once cry once" and along comes Blue Pooper (Thanks Steve) with some good solid advice. Sigh. This is why I waver. I do think that I'd go for the A1 over the mini just for the bigger space. But then, when you pay for that....you might as well....

and so it goes.
You are welcome!:trust:

Bambu has their black Friday sale going now, so an A1 Mini is $200, A1 is $300 (add $150 to each if you get the AMS Lite), P1S is $550 (add $200 for the AMS).
No point in the $450 P1P IMO, the A1 can do pretty much everything it can for 2/3 the price, and to make it equal to the P1S (fans and enclosure are over $200 more bought separately).

I just could not justify the extra $350 cost of the P1S over the A1 Mini for something I had no idea how much I would use, or if it would be used for a few weeks then sit on my desk doing nothing.
Plus I had $215 in rewards on a credit card, so it was "free" (at least that is what I told my wife to justify me getting it ;-) )
I have no regrets on picking the A1 Mini, and even if in the future I end up getting something "better", I would not consider it a waste of money. It really is a great way to "test the waters" of 3D printing, and everything you learn on it will carry over if you upgrade down the road.
For me right now it is a neat little toy, have made mostly premade trinkets and toys that others designed, printed a few useful items that others designed, tweaked a few designs for my needs, and even "designed" the interlock switch for my generator setup, so has been a positive thing so far.
Have a few things I would like to make and need to figure out how to do it, just have not had the time yet.

Funny thing is I have a nephew that has been doing some moderate hobby 3D printing for 4-5 years, and he currently has 3 or 4 mid level Ender and Prusa units, and on a whim bought an A1 Mini to see what the hype was about and said he was blown away by it's quality and capabilities.
He said it is his go to printer now for anything that does not need a larger bed or specialty materials (which he said is rarely).
 
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Well, this just happened. Time to get the learning going.

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As I've been pondering the printing unit to buy, I've been seeing all kinds of things that I'm like "I could 3D print a solution for that..." So, I already have some projects lined up.

The wife thing was a little easier than I thought it would be. As I revealed what I bought (without revealing the price) I got the expected eyerolls. I sat her down at the computer and showed her a few things including a guy organizing kitchen drawers with gridfinity and she was like "Wow! That's so cool!" My son is also excited and has a favorite band, which we love as well. I pulled up a search for the band and there were all kinds of things to print related to the band. Before I knew it, my wife had moved me out of my seat and was looking through all kinds of sites including looking at Etsy for what other people have printed. There's no more eye rolling and I fear some of my projects might be moving to the back burner.

I grabbed a Black Friday sample pack of filament off Amazon that should be arriving later today for us to play with. I can see the filament part getting expensive really quickly, but it'll be fun!
 
So buy once cry once on the P1S with AMS. Nice.

Filament does add up. Different types of filament (and you have more choices that I do with the P1S) with basic colors of each, then some special colors, glow in the dark, shimmering silk, clear, etc. Then you will need to worry about keeping the filament dry, so you will be buying some bags and desiccant, a filament dryer, then will end up with a vacuum sealer for longer term storage (at least the AMS helps keep active filament a little dryer than the AMS lite).
Then where to store all the filament.
It can turn real expensive real fast.

My $200 3D printer has cost me twice that, and I only have 2 rolls of PETG, 2 of PLA+, 5 fast PLA, and 1 TPU (I think, need to go count all of them under my desk, which is about out of room).
For the PLA, I found a few sales/bundles on Amazon and got them for almost 1/2 price.
For my moisture control, it is minimal, I keep them in the bags they came in with the desiccant pack that they came with. No idea how effective that really is, but better than just sitting out IMO.

Look on youtube on tips for reducing the poop for color changes, some have gotten waste cut in half with some tweaks.
Also look on Makersworld.com for accessories you can print for the P1S. There are some pretty creative things people have designed that you would not think you need, but once you print it and use it, you wonder why was this not included with the printer.

Enjoy your new expense, :)
 
Yea, when you sit down and look at it right now, the AMS was kind of a no brainer. I know I will want it, and the discount you get buying it as a bundle plus black Friday discounts pushed me over the edge. I've been watching tons of videos already, and have stumbled across the waste videos too. I need to solve the poop situation for where I have it stored. I've also seen some filament storage boxes you can print for your extra filament that you can put the desiccant in and put in hygrometers even. Crazy stuff. Printing a fidget toy for my son right now, I'm using Orca Slicer so we've already had some learning curve figuring out just how to choose the color in the AMS to use.
 
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Yea, when you sit down and look at it right now, the AMS was kind of a no brainer. I know I will want it, and the discount you get buying it as a bundle plus black Friday discounts pushed me over the edge. I've been watching tons of videos already, and have stumbled across the waste videos too. I need to solve the poop situation for where I have it stored. I've also seen some filament storage boxes you can print for your extra filament that you can put the desiccant in and put in hygrometers even. Crazy stuff. Printing a fidget toy for my son right now, I'm using Orca Slicer so we've already had some learning curve figuring out just how to choose the color in the AMS to use.
So why Orca and not the Bambu slicer (Orca is based off Bambu, which his built of Prusaslicer)?

From what I understand, color selection in Bambu is simple, and if you use Bambu filament, the RFID tags tell it what you have loaded automatically (but not that hard to tell it what you have if using other brands).
 
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Orca, while based off Bambu, supposedly gets new features sooner and is machine agnostic, so if I got another machine from a different brand in the future, no learning a new software. At least, that's my logic. It wasn't very hard though, for some reason it was seeing the AMS in the device section but not the other tabs, I found a sync button and it all started working. Who knows, just trying it out at this point, might switch over later too, we'll see.
 
Orca, while based off Bambu, supposedly gets new features sooner and is machine agnostic, so if I got another machine from a different brand in the future, no learning a new software. At least, that's my logic. It wasn't very hard though, for some reason it was seeing the AMS in the device section but not the other tabs, I found a sync button and it all started working. Who knows, just trying it out at this point, might switch over later too, we'll see.
Slicers are pretty much universal, so really does not matter which one you use.
The Bambu slicer is designed to be used with their products so has features geared towards them, but can be used with other printers as well.

Was just curious if you had a specific reason for it.
I have never tried others, since I just heard the Bambu was good.
I actually loaded the app on my ipad the other day, and it is neat in that it will let me stop a single item on a multi item print if I have an issue with it.
No idea why the desktop version does not have this option.

I think my only gripe with Bambu (at least my A1 Mini) is that it does not have a wired connection and must either go through the cloud or save it to an SD card and manually transfer the file that way.
 
They are building a 3D printed house in the spring branch area of Houston. I stumbled upon it by accident today while in that area
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I wouldn't live in anything made of concrete without steel reinforcement.
 
I wouldn't live in anything made of concrete without steel reinforcement.
I saw a youtube video or some documentary about how this was being done, and the concrete is a very specialized mix with some kind of fibers in it that act like reinforcement.
I did not know they were doing 2 story homes now, I would think they have to have some kind of support in there besides just concrete. Who knows.
For around here, probably not a bad idea, but for earthquake areas, maybe not the best idea?
 
Ok, so I got a new toy, of course I've been busy.

First off, the fidget toy my son picked out and we printed together. You are going to see lots of that green and orange filament that came with the Bambu.

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If you haven't seen these, the green part slides right through the orange part with a satisfying noise as the 3D printed surfaces rub against each other. Perfect for my sons' ADHD brain, he loves it and it blew my wife's mind trying to figure it out the first time she saw it.

Ran into my first problem. The sample pack is all on .250kg spools. These are NOT compatible with the AMS. I ordered them to have so we could play but wondered about this. I apparently didn't have the right terms in my head to google this early on because I couldn't find the info. Now that I can see the inside of the AMS and how it all works, I found out that it is indeed a problem. However, if you have a 3D printer, you can come up with solutions. Oh hey! I have one of those now. Here's my spool adapter I found and printed..

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That took quite a bit of time to get printed. I kinda need three more if I want to play with multi color prints.

But first, let's learn some more stuff and start playing with the CAD stuff. I'd started playing with Fusion (apparently they dropped the 360 recently) and then before I got the printer, my Windows computer died. I switched daily use over to my Linux machine until I can build me a new Windows one. Looks like Fusion doesn't support Linux, and like most applications, is barely useable in Wine and there's a Snap version that's also a pain. Can't use the web version unless you fall into a certain category of people which I don't, so I went in search of something useable. I made it about two minutes into TinkerCAD before I figured out it wasn't going to do what I wanted it to do. Then I tripped upon OpenSCAD. Holy crap is this jumping off the deep end! If you haven't used it, it's more for technical things and not so good for artistic things, and that's because there's no graphical tools. It's all code. I like code, but not everybody does. It does have a graphical output to show you what your code is doing so there's that. It's also cool because it makes you think about what the CAD stuff is doing in the background. All the stuff Bill was talking about previously about duplicating and mirroring and such, it makes more sense now, and was perfect for what I needed to work on.

So, here's the problem. My chop saw will try to fling the sawdust up the chute and into the collection bag. But it's better if you can hook up a shop vac to it. I have a tiny shop vac for cleaning out the car, so the nozzle doesn't fit.

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I once tried to wrap an entire roll of tape around the nozzle to make it work but it was a pain.

I got something simple right away but when I wanted to round the edges, it turns out that it is very hard to do bevels and chamfers in OpenSCAD. I found a guy who had written a whole library that can round any corner on any shape, so I spent some time learning how ti works and used one of his samples as a starting point

Here's the progress for my adapter. On the right is a quick print to make sure I had sizes right. In the middle is the first version and on the left is the finished product. I'm figuring out how to hide seams, because I don't see them on the downloaded models but they appear on mine. The bumps on the left one is making them random, I forgot to turn the middle one so you could see the lined up seam. The middle one I somehow fat figured the numbers for the upper hole and it was too big.

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Top hole is still a smidge large, but the taper on the vacuum hose is very small, less than 1mm, so the tolerances are tough there, I'll get better but this will work.

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In case you are curious about the code. Basically it uses his library to define a polygon based on points and then rounds the corners before rotating the entire thing 360 degrees to create a vase like shape. Everything is variables so I can tweak easily until I get it right.


Code:
use <roundAnything/polyround.scad>

Thickness = 6;
IDTop = 31.5;
ODBottom = 56;
ODMiddle = ODBottom + 2;
IDBottom = ODBottom - (Thickness*2);
ODTop = IDTop + (Thickness*2);
IDMiddle = ODMiddle - (Thickness*2);
Height = 51;


rotate_extrude(angle = 360, convexity =10, $fn = 200)
    polygon(
        polyRound(
            [
                [IDMiddle/2,15,40],
                [IDTop/2,Height,2],
                [ODTop/2,Height,2],
                [ODBottom/2+1,15,40],
                [ODBottom/2,0,0],
                [IDBottom/2,0,0],
            ]
        ,20)
    ,0.1);
 
Today's lesson learned. Well, not so much learned, but reinforced. When ordering new filament and using the "Auto Refill" or "Continue Printing" option when you run out, make sure the filament you ordered and are loading up is the same as what you had in there originally. "Black" is not "Black." I mean, I knew this, but didn't pay proper attention.

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It's way more obvious in person.
 
Today's lesson learned. Well, not so much learned, but reinforced. When ordering new filament and using the "Auto Refill" or "Continue Printing" option when you run out, make sure the filament you ordered and are loading up is the same as what you had in there originally. "Black" is not "Black." I mean, I knew this, but didn't pay proper attention.

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It's way more obvious in person.
Yeah, you would think black is black, but there is also a matter of the sheen of the finished material, flow characteristics as well as the actual tint of material.
Even "black" from the same manufacturer will be different depending on the actual material. I have some black eSun Fast PLA and regular eSun PLA and they are both slightly different looking once printed. Not as noticeable as yours (with objects side by side), but if I had an AMS and was done on same project, you would probably still see a line.
I know my black Elegoo Rapid PETG and Inland PLA plus are really different shades and sheen from each other, and of course TPU is a totally different look.

I won't say I regret not getting the AMS Lite when I got my A1 Mini, but it would be nice not having to manually swap spools all the time. Not a color change issue, but just for convivence of not having to swap filament when doing different jobs.
I find I bounce between my fast PLA, PLA plus and PETG quite often, with an occasional TPU here and there, and while not a huge issue to change filament, just being able to click on the slicer what spool to use would make it easier for sure.
For my basic tinkering needs though the cost still does not justify it to me at this time.
 
It's definitely a convenience thing. I haven't even printed anything multi color yet, but that's coming, I have a few things in the queue. But the fact that on the P1S, the spool holder and where it goes in is on the back of the printer. Swapping spools back there would get old very quickly for sure. The other nice thing about this AMS is that it also acts as a dry box. I'm still doing stuff in basic PLA (Which I'm already impressed with the quality and strength of it) so not a huge concern, but with one desiccant holder in there it's holding at 10% easily, so that's nice too. I've seen where you can print dry box add-on's for the mini AMS and that would be nice too.

I think I realized my mistake though, while I was careful to order the black from the same company, when you read the description of the sample pack it just says that it includes "Black" and not which one, so clearly, I didn't order the right one. Thankfully that's the back of the project so it won't be seen much.

Got some more green and orange today so I can print up a couple more spool adapters and then I can play with multicolor prints. I also printed another project that I've had on hold for a while, now waiting on some parts to come from AliExpress to finish it off.
 
Today's lesson learned. If you want to save a few bucks per spool (adds up after a while) you can order the refill kits which go on your empty spools. Saves money and keeps spools out of the landfill. Cool stuff, and it's pretty easy. One key thing is making sure the two spool halves are correctly attached to one another. Evidently there's a click, and then a second much harder click to get them locked together. Leaving it at the first click means that it'll pop apart and the filament will "Poof!" and leave you with a rat's nest to deal with.

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I respooled enough to finish my print and now I'm printing a respooler tool. Sigh. Always nice when your 3D printing problems have a 3D printing solution.
 
I've been wanting to get a basket off of my desk where I dump everything I need for going out and about every day so I put this together. The threaded boards are not my design, but basically everything else is drawn up to fit what I have and want to store/organize. I'm already really liking having a place for everything.

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That's awesome! The crazy amount of vertical wall systems out there for 3D printing is crazy. I'm sitting here at the moment agonizing over some gridfinity decisions that are likely going to make me scrap a bunch of prints to do things how I really want them. Ugh.
 
Ok, so pretty much everything I see covered here is the easy stuff. Nobody seems to be touching on the hard questions. Say I get one of these things and get it all set up. What's the first thing I print to convince the wife that this is a worthwhile purchase and not another dumb expensive toy? Something that keeps the eyerolling and sighing to a minimum. :D
So, fun update on the wife side of things. She's been helping me plan out the silverware drawer but that's all on hold as we are in Florida for the holidays.

My brother in law is an organization freak. I'd been eager to show him some videos of gridfinity and watch his mind blow. So, last night we are in the kitchen and I showed him a youtube short of someone organizing their drawer with gridfinity. As predicted his eyes got all wide and he got super excited. Then he asked me the question. "How much does a decent 3D printer cost these days?"

I immediately stalled out and just stared him down. Then I turned slowly and looked at my wife sitting at the dining room table listening to us. BIL says "Oooooh, we can't talk about that number here can we?" He gets it. :D

My wife picks up on this and says "How much DID you spend on that 3D printer?"

I stammer and start to try to figure out how I'm getting out of this one and how to play it. She says "What? Like $2000?" I roll my eyes and say "Oh no! Definitely not!" BIL says "$1500?" and I look at him and say "Nope!" Wife says "IT WAS MORE!?!?!?!?!" I looked at both of them and said "No no no, more like $800." My wife exclaims "Oh wow, that's cheap!"

My BIL and I both look at each other and we both get a huge grin, we start screaming and high fiving and yelling and running around the kitchen. He looks at me and says "Man! You just won! So well played!" We continued to laugh, and my wife sat there stewing knowing she played her cards so wrong.

Side note: My wife does not play this game well, which is why she is no longer allowed in car dealerships. When I bought my Ranger, they slid the post it note across the table with their FIRST number, and she exclaimed "Wow, we can totally afford that!!!" I was then the proud owner of an overpriced Ford Ranger. Sigh.

While it doesn't always work out, last night it was totally to my advantage.
 
Side note: My wife does not play this game well, which is why she is no longer allowed in car dealerships. When I bought my Ranger, they slid the post it note across the table with their FIRST number, and she exclaimed "Wow, we can totally afford that!!!" I was then the proud owner of an overpriced Ford Ranger. Sigh.
My Wife and yours might be related. We were shopping for a new washer and dryer a few months back and we pretty much knew what we wanted before we went in there. Once we were in there and saw them, she was all, "oh man, yep, these are the ones! We should have bought these along time ago!" all right in front of the sales guy. That... is now I walked out of there paying full retail on a washer and dryer set. :lol2:
 
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