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misterk

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I'm right at 14000 on mine. I'm not sure how to tell when you need one other than when it stretches so far you can't adjust it.
mine still had a lot more of adjustment to go. You will start to feel it get notchy, especially at slow speed when you take off from a stop. Mine could have gone another 10k miles based upon stretch. I don't like notchy chains. You can also examine each link and see if you have a frozen link. I had a couple.

If you chain is quiet and not notchy, keep riding with that big grin on your face :)
 

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Hey guys...been thinking about getting a AT for awhile now. Just got back from a guided tour in AK where I upgraded to the AT, so that I could try it out. First thing...when I got the bike it had over 59000 miles on it (less than 2 years old!). Right off the bat that told me it was durable. I put almost 1400 on it in the week I rode it. No problems. A couple other ATs on the ride blew fork seals. We rode mostly paved, but did about 30% dirt, some of which was pretty rough. Also each day the guide had "extra credit" rides for anyone interested. Usually 10-15 miles out and back on jeep roads...until the road ended or became to bad to continue. I was surprised at what all the bike could handle off-road. All in all...I was impressed. Obviously not a Goldwing, but very comfortable on the highway. Couple of days we did close to 300 miles and no worse for the wear! Pretty much ready to get one. Hoping to find a good low mileage one that someone has all tricked out! Otherwise may wait for the new ADV model.
 

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I'm right at 14000 on mine. I'm not sure how to tell when you need one other than when it stretches so far you can't adjust it.
:tab Lightly tap the side of the chain midway between the front and rear sprockets. If you hear rattling, that means some of the O-rings are toast and the chain is not long for this world. The biggest factor for chain life is keeping the O-rings intact. They keep the water/dirt out of the area inside the roller pins. Rust will destroy the O-rings.

:tab If the chain has worn so bad that you are at or near the end of the adjustment range, I'd definitely replace it!
 
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Hey guys...been thinking about getting a AT for awhile now. Just got back from a guided tour in AK where I upgraded to the AT, so that I could try it out. First thing...when I got the bike it had over 59000 miles on it (less than 2 years old!). Right off the bat that told me it was durable. I put almost 1400 on it in the week I rode it. No problems. A couple other ATs on the ride blew fork seals. We rode mostly paved, but did about 30% dirt, some of which was pretty rough. Also each day the guide had "extra credit" rides for anyone interested. Usually 10-15 miles out and back on jeep roads...until the road ended or became to bad to continue. I was surprised at what all the bike could handle off-road. All in all...I was impressed. Obviously not a Goldwing, but very comfortable on the highway. Couple of days we did close to 300 miles and no worse for the wear! Pretty much ready to get one. Hoping to find a good low mileage one that someone has all tricked out! Otherwise may wait for the new ADV model.
If you go new, check with Honda of Russellville (Arkansas). They will usually beat most any other shop on price to the point you can buy most of your accessories and still be around the price of just the bike if you buy it anywhere else. They beat my best local dealer price by $2401.
 

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Hey guys...been thinking about getting a AT for awhile now. Just got back from a guided tour in AK where I upgraded to the AT, so that I could try it out. First thing...when I got the bike it had over 59000 miles on it (less than 2 years old!). Right off the bat that told me it was durable. I put almost 1400 on it in the week I rode it. No problems. A couple other ATs on the ride blew fork seals. We rode mostly paved, but did about 30% dirt, some of which was pretty rough. Also each day the guide had "extra credit" rides for anyone interested. Usually 10-15 miles out and back on jeep roads...until the road ended or became to bad to continue. I was surprised at what all the bike could handle off-road. All in all...I was impressed. Obviously not a Goldwing, but very comfortable on the highway. Couple of days we did close to 300 miles and no worse for the wear! Pretty much ready to get one. Hoping to find a good low mileage one that someone has all tricked out! Otherwise may wait for the new ADV model.
Hey Travis, I will sell you mine for $20,000 tonight at the meeting LOL, I have no desire to trick another bike out for a few years :)

I hear a lot about fork seals blowing on the AT, or all usd forks. I had a left one weeping when I bought it (5k miles). I lowered the dust seal and used the motion pro fork cleaning tool (that thin piece of plastic that cleans the inside of the seal). I also added Seal Savers that velcro to the outside. No problems, knock on wood. I did change my fork oil about 7k miles ago to 10w.

I also replaced the rear shock spring from Cogent ($150) made my world right again. The best farkle for me was the Camel Tank. That 5 gallon tank drove me crazy on long tours. 6.7 gallons now and I stop when I WANT not when the bike needs.
 
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Yeah, Travis, I think you should pull the trigger on this. And if you get one with black rims, I'll trade you for a really cool, rare set of gold ones!:sun: ...and handlebars too.
If he doesn't hit you up on this and you really want to swap, I'd trade you. I think the gold would look good on the red and white.:trust:
 
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If he doesn't hit you up on this and you really want to swap, I'd trade you. I think the gold would look good on the red and white.:trust:
I have seen a couple pictures of Red, and White ATs with Gold rims, they do look very good.
At least there would be one I could tell wasn't my bike:doh:

I'm thinking of getting a Jack in the box Ball on an antenna for the next ride:giveup:

As far as the weeping seals go, cleaning below the Dust seal usually fixes it as misterk mentioned. either way, fork seals are pretty easy to change if needed.
it is just part of riding off road. (can you tell I've owned KTM's for the last 28 years)
 
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I'm right at 14000 on mine. I'm not sure how to tell when you need one other than when it stretches so far you can't adjust it.


See if you have any kinked links, if no linked links keep going till you maxed the stretch.

I changed my air filters today at 21k miles. Probably could have got another 5k out of them.

 
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I had my air filters changed on the AT last week at 8k miles. Half those miles were on dirt, so my filters were filthy.
T.


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Woods has one in stock waiting for me to run by so they can install it. Because it is a safety Rectal they won’t let me do it myself


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North Houston AT-owner checking in!
Looking to put some miles on the new bike.
Could use a nice coating of dirt, so don't mind taking the less-traveled roads if anyone knows their way around down here.
 

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Anyone want some free stock tires for their Africa Twin?

They came on the bike new in April, pulled them off in late May before a trip to the Hill Country and they've been in the garage since.

I think they have around 3,700 miles on them, but still plenty of life left.

Free for pickup in Waxahachie. Any takers?

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misterk

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Anyone want some free stock tires for their Africa Twin?

They came on the bike new in April, pulled them off in late May before a trip to the Hill Country and they've been in the garage since.

I think they have around 3,700 miles on them, but still plenty of life left.

Free for pickup in Waxahachie. Any takers?

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What tires did you get?
 

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I took my forks apart today doing preventative maintenance to replace seals and bushings. I am also replacing springs. I have 23k miles on bike. I have used shock sox the entire time.


I have the worn coating issue. This happened in the outside of the fork. I took them to dfw Honda today, they took pics and will contact Honda to see about replacement with the 2018. Btw, the supension still worked well, no stiction. I replaced the fork oil about 10k miles ago.

I will turn the good side to the outside until I hear from Honda.

Right

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Left
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Bushings left

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Bushings right - copper worn
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New springs

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Huh? I thought they would have been at least .85 if not .90


That would require revalving. Main diff is it is not a progressive spring like one.

Stock springs are .54 I believe. I was pretty happy with one, I had to run my preload too high and used too much sag. I need a little heavier spring. I changed spring on rear and it is perfect for me. Todd at Cogent has been very helpful. Both front and rear came from cogent.
 
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What tires did you get?
I have a Shinko 804 on the front. Initially, I started off with a TKC80 on the back in May and replaced it with a Shinko 805 in September before the Arkansas Dirt trip.

I think I'm going to do a TKC80 up front next, but not sure what to go with in the back. I want to do something less aggressive than the Shinko 804 or TKC80 so it will last longer.

Any recommendations? TKC70? Mitas something?

Let me know what you find on the forks. I might need to get mine checked. I've only got 9,000 on mine so far.
 

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I have a Shinko 804 on the front. Initially, I started off with a TKC80 on the back in May and replaced it with a Shinko 805 in September before the Arkansas Dirt trip.

I think I'm going to do a TKC80 up front next, but not sure what to go with in the back. I want to do something less aggressive than the Shinko 804 or TKC80 so it will last longer.

Any recommendations? TKC70? Mitas something?

Let me know what you find on the forks. I might need to get mine checked. I've only got 9,000 on mine so far.


I use the tkc80 front and mitas 7 rear, I am happy. 10k front and about 7500 rear


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Mistreck, keep us informed about the fork issue, I noticed when I was jumping the logs at our place on the Hill Country 500 the forks were topping out and bottoming out really bad. I think the topping out clunk was louder than the bottoming out. Would love to get some better springs front and back along with more rebound damping.

Hadn't heard of any problems with the forks till I read your post. Any other known problems?

I just noticed my spokes seem to be tarnished really bad. I recall reading something in the early batches of bikes some had problems with spokes rusting, does anybody else remember this or am I just remembering wrong?
 

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Mistreck, keep us informed about the fork issue, I noticed when I was jumping the logs at our place on the Hill Country 500 the forks were topping out and bottoming out really bad. I think the topping out clunk was louder than the bottoming out. Would love to get some better springs front and back along with more rebound damping.

Hadn't heard of any problems with the forks till I read your post. Any other known problems?

I just noticed my spokes seem to be tarnished really bad. I recall reading something in the early batches of bikes some had problems with spokes rusting, does anybody else remember this or am I just remembering wrong?
The oem springs are sprung for a 170 lb rider, like almost all oem systems. you would be amazed what $150 on springs will do. My forks were still working fine, no stiction, just too soft. I did not have any more preload adjustment so it was time. This is really not that big of a deal. Worst comes to worse, I can get the 2018 standard tubes for about $300 for each tube. Or I can go with Ohlins for $2500, perhaps sell them for $1,200 when I get another twin in a few years. My twin has 23k miles, and I have been happy as a clam the entire time.

Like @macdaddy said, we all have ridden lesser bikes with lesser suspension. I think the internet blows some of this out of proportion. You read the AT suspension thread on advrider and you wonder how picky can a person be on suspension. Changing 1 or 2 shims etc. I am not that picky. Almost all of my bikes I have changed springs out from the OEM.

BTW, for you guys trying to balance a 50/50 tire, try dyna beads. I run them in my tubes in front and tubeless on rear. I have run them for many years on different bikes. The ride is smooth as glass!
 

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Did a 200 mile ride today. I have reached motorcycle nirvana:)

The twin handles the corners like it is on rails (at least for a 21” wheel). No more wallowing. The suspension leaves me wanting nothing else!

I have the preload on 3 turns, I really don’t think I need that much. I took the bike loaded today.

I have rebound 3.5 clicks, damping 3.5 turns. Rear preload 2 turns, 3 clicks rebound.

I have officially finished all my farkles!
 
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