Sounds like a plan.
What size pelican case do you have behind you on the AT? How often do you hit your back on it?
Well Rick, I guess that kind of depends. I'm sure that I have by far more pavement than the other rides, although that wasn't neccesarily my intent.
I've never been to Glenwood before but it looks to me like its a about 10-12 miles to get to what I think is the good stuff. My route goes to directly to Norman and than the fun we all wanted begins. Also on the return at Langly we have pavement probably another 12 miles back to home. Some folks may be a little fatigued and ready for a cruise back on the run in to Glenwood. I suppose I could have got a little more forest roads back but we would be duplicating some of the morning ride and I wanted all new stuff.
We pass through Mena after about 65 miles as we head further west. For dual sporters with small tanks they might appericate topping off with gas then. If we haven't eaten prior we could stop and get breakfast at the Skyway(?) diner too. Then we hit about 35% of the Talimena Scenic Byway. Some folks may have never been on this before and it can be a real treat. But its always an entertaining road (paved of course) with probably a brief stop at the Queen Wilhelmina lodge where we could have a brunch instead of breakfast or nothing at all. But the best views on the weekend will likely be on this road. To get off Talimena we'll take a forest road down the "mountain."
Next we'll use 3 or 4 miles of pavement across the valley floor before we hop on a wide forest road and climb up the side of the other "mountain" to the three sticks overlook. From there we catch the easy part of the K-trail towards Hatfield. At times this runs on top of the ridge and has some pretty cool views through the trees. This should be the most rustic road we ride on and some of it may be overgrown two-track before we get close to Zafra prior to arriving in Hatfield. Hatfield is about 70 miles after Mena and they have (last I was there anyhow) a gas station. Then it's back onto some awesome easy/fun forest roads as we wind our way back to Glenwood.
So Rick, mine is just one of the routes available to you and you are certainly not required to ride it but you would be more than welcome to come with us/me if you like. Google maps can also be your friend. I tried to include a lot of diversity into this route and I think most would be satisfied at the end of the day. If not that's what beer is for, right? All that said, if I was riding someing like a street legal YZ450 than I wouldn't be very happy.
Special thanks to Jarrett for posting the route.
My plan is to get there early enough to explore Friday myself, (that's the plan anyway, lol).Sounds perfect!
Forecast says partly cloudy with scattered thunderstorms. That is very typical for this time of year in Arkansas and will be very spotty. The time it is soggy is when it says 100% rain and cloudy! This will be good to keep the dust down, I hate them crunchy boogers
I will be there Friday morning since Glenwood is only 40 miles from Hot Springs. I will get a good campsite by the trash dumpsters
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I thought that's what it was. I have one I was going to mount it in the same place but didn't really like where it contacted my back. Remember I am a lot bigger than you.It is the 1400 mounted on the altrider rack that replaces the rear seat. The position i have it in is very comfortable to use as a little back rest. We can switch bikes for a little bit, I want to try your front forks.
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I thought that's what it was. I have one I was going to mount it in the same place but didn't really like where it contacted my back. Remember I am a lot bigger than you.
The wetter it gets, the more it's going to make that 250 the smarter choice.Are we up to 10 now?
woodsguy & Glenn
The extended forecast looks bad at this point:
How does days of rain affect these routes?
Ditto!So...looking like 10 people. I know Jarrett posted Steve's Saturday route and it looks pretty fun so maybe everyone will just ride that one route. However, I think some will ride on Friday and Sunday as well so if others have other good routes to post or an alternative Saturday route, I'm sure they'd all be appreciated.
I'm not looking to be the official route or anything (thinking Rick and his 690 or anyone else on a dedicated bike), it's nice to have options but its fine with me if everyone wants to do just this one on Saturday. Either way I'm happy.
BTW.... I'm not a fan of super big groups (10 is pushing it IMO) so if we do all decide to ride the same Saturday route, we might want to consider splitting it. 2 groups of 5 will probably work better. It's just easier to keep track of everyone. If it was road, I'd definitely want to split up. On a 50/50 ADV ride, maybe not as important but I thought I'd throw it out there.
I think 2WheelNut and I have discussed this a little bit in the past at some point, but yeah, I agree with his assessment. Smaller groups move better, less time regrouping at each turn and so on. 5 riders x potential problems is less than 10 riders x potential problems. And the biggie, less names to remember...Hey I'm getting older okay.
Having said that, just because I had the idea to start this trip doesn't make me the leader and frankly doesn't mean much at all. I started this thread because I wanted somebody to show me some good dirt roads in Arkansas and it seems others wanted that too. I'm sure we'll have fun as a big group or small group but I thought I'd mention that splitting the group might be fun too.
Regardless....I'm looking forward to it. Rain or shine....it's going to be an Adventure.
If you are talking about the Arrowhead Cabins place as campers, that is where I am staying, but I will be in a small camper in an RV site not tenting. I am coming from Houston area, but plan on heading out Thursday night and driving a couple of hours, then making the rest of the drive Friday morning.Perfect!
How many campers do we have? I know of 2 right now;
myself and Super Dave.
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MacDaddy if you have that route in .gpx file format I can load it on my Garmin and have it in case we have to run multiple groups. I have already loaded up the other two routes that were posted earlier in the thread. Happy to help in any way for everyone to have a good ride.
A bit over 2 weeks. Can't wait.
Kevin.... do we need to reserve a camping spot and if so have you done so already? I seem to remember they are first come first serve...but just thought I'd ask.
Do they do day passes? Could the motelers show up for a swim?Anyone staying at Arrowhead, bring your swim trunks, it's right on a beautiful river, very nice wading. Just be careful it has a good flow!! Also, please, if your bike is loud be respectful of other campers!
Thanks...looks like a nice option.I was playing around with Google Earth and came up with this for a possible Friday or Sunday ride. 57 miles.
I'm going to modify the route Jarrett posted for me earlier (Saturday route) to lessen the highway and the beginning and end. The first part between Caddo Gap and Norman will be the same as the above route.
Thanks...looks like a nice option.
I'm still trying to figure out when I'll get there on Friday. Trying to figure out how to get there around 2 without taking a day off....not sure it's going to work.
Lol...Cough, cough...I am not feeling well today.......try to throw a couple of sniffles in with it. It also helps to stick your finger down your throat right before the call. This will loosen up mucus
Even better.Okay, the new and slightly improved route (Version 2 and gluten free BTW) contains less pavement at the beginning and especially the end. I know all ADV riders appreciate a happy ending. Mileage is up slightly to 204 miles.
This is the one I plan on leading.
I'm a guest, I'm good with whatever the group decides. I can work around any of it!Rich, I can't speak for Friday night but I guess we have to decide on Breakfast on Saturday morning. Do we eat before we depart or do we ride about 60 miles (might be time good time for a break) and have breakfast at the Skyline cafe in Mena? I know I'm going to want to eat but I don't care which place we choose. As far as the GPS route goes I just started it in front of McDonalds at the intersection of 70 & 27 because I have to start it somewhere and they have decent coffee.
Real adventure riders only use a compass..........................................so if you get us lost, I will have my compass on my Iphone ready..........On the second/final version of the Saturday route for any of those that transferred the tracks to your device, just make sure the entire route is there. For some reason on my Garmin Montana it stopped at about 170 miles instead of the 204. I did another route to complete the ride and can post it if there is a need.
BTW, the weather report is looking good!!!