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Around the Bend - March 22-25, 2018

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I did this route the year before you and I went to the State Park. Just running back from Marfa to Study Butte through the north side of the park, without a single detour, was about 135 miles IIRC and seemed like quite a ride. We arrived in Study Butte on fumes, with the WRX using all of it's whopping 2.0 gal tank. If we had played a bit we'd be forced to backtrack to Presidio for gas to make Study Butte.

Google maps puts your loop at 8h 18m and 275 miles going up Pinto Canyon. 294 if you go to Presidio for gas on the way home. I'd guess John and I did it in ~7 hours of riding with highway speeds of 65 - 70 on the DRZ400SM and WR250X and double prudent speeds on dirt. So, in a nutshell, I don't see there being a lot of extra time to play in the northern end of the State Park. I really enjoyed the riding you and I did up there. Roads the rangers hadn't themselves driven in 2 or 3 years...probably the least trafficked place I've ever been.

https://goo.gl/maps/bzeJYpSAiJC2

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I hear ya. Probably gotta narrow down my sandbox for a one day’er. And yeah, that was a great trip hanging out and riding BBRSP - soul nourishing.

So - thinking the Chiso-Pinto loop Cannonshot wrote up as part of his outstanding BB write up on ADVRider.
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He pegs the loop from Presidio at 250 miles - add in the run to/from Study Butte and we’re talking 375 or so. One option I’m thinking about is loading the bike in the truck, leaving very early and unloading in Presidio. I know a safe place to leave vehicles (3 Palms). That won’t really save any time, but I’m more comfortable riding in the early to pre dawn in the truck and riding back in the dark the same way.
 
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Only gas is in Presidio and Marfa along the wester route I’m discussing.
If you ride Chispa and someone finds they're on fumes when you exit to pavement, you can always detour ~20 miles to Van Horn. You'll have to backtrack of course but better than running out.

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I love this event. Ive ridden it a few times. Last year I drove out with a new CRF450X that was not ready itself and I ended up missing the rides even though I did get to ride the beast down a few roads...and realized the difference between a DR650 and the CRF450X... My schedule again may not allow for it and at the moment I need a Dually...but Im gonna try to make it...
 
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Is there another thread for route planning for this event? If so, please let me know where, if not here it is...

I have a proposition to big dual sport riders:
Friday: Terlingua to Marfa, down south on Pinto Canyon Road and then head north on 170 from Ruidosa and hit 2017 back towards US90 a bit north of Valentine Then whatever...
Saturday: Terlingua to Presidio and cross into Mexico at Ojinaga and visit Peguis canyon and head back ***will need passports but no other docs*** Time permitting, go back into USA, enter the park from Terlingua and ride Maverick road to Santa Elena Canyon(decent dirt with some sand washes but nothing too difficult really)

Please let me know if you would consider these two rides
 

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Hi John, for the last few years, every time I cross into OJ, I have been asked for registration receipt or title. The border agents are asking for documents to prove ownership. A few times I have been allowed in with just a printed copy of my Texas insurance card to verify the VIN number.

It sure would screwup the trip if the agents refused to let you in because you couldn't provide a document to show you own the bike you're riding. Make it easy, bring the registration receipt.
 
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Why is there no Tourist Visa and TVIP required at this crossing? Or do they overlook it if you say you're just going over for the day?
It is not only the OJ crossing, it is ANY crossing.

Stay ~20 km from the border = No TVIP required
Stay less than 72 hours in above zone = No tourist visa required

Also half of Sonora and all of Baja California both Norte and Sur are Tourist hassle free zones. No TVIP ever required but a tourist visa is required for stays over 7 days.

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Interesting, Richard's post about crossing over to Mex to visit the canyon indicated that there was no need. In any case, I suppose I can just carry the registration paper and give it a shot. If it works great, if not, we'll go ride something else on the US side. Thanks for the heads-up.


Hi John, for the last few years, every time I cross into OJ, I have been asked for registration receipt or title. The border agents are asking for documents to prove ownership. A few times I have been allowed in with just a printed copy of my Texas insurance card to verify the VIN number.

It sure would screwup the trip if the agents refused to let you in because you couldn't provide a document to show you own the bike you're riding. Make it easy, bring the registration receipt.
 
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By the way if you are interested in these routes, please send an email or text me please. john_kalyoncuoglu@dell.com 512-4966627

Is there another thread for route planning for this event? If so, please let me know where, if not here it is...

I have a proposition to big dual sport riders:
Friday: Terlingua to Marfa, down south on Pinto Canyon Road and then head north on 170 from Ruidosa and hit 2017 back towards US90 a bit north of Valentine Then whatever...
Saturday: Terlingua to Presidio and cross into Mexico at Ojinaga and visit Peguis canyon and head back ***will need passports but no other docs*** Time permitting, go back into USA, enter the park from Terlingua and ride Maverick road to Santa Elena Canyon(decent dirt with some sand washes but nothing too difficult really)

Please let me know if you would consider these two rides
 

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Heading down from Denton and have room on trailer for 1 or 2 more bikes. Also have a room with 2 beads 22-25 planes have changed now looking to split the cost of room, if not will try to change to a single. Even thanking about going down a day early for more riding
 
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Good morning,

Can you please help me with a section on this route?

I can't figure out the section beginning from the end of 170 Candelaria ( north of Ruidosa) to where that hits 1017 coming down from US90

I tried google maps, garmin, google satellite and could not route that section.

Thanks in advance for the help

I hear ya. Probably gotta narrow down my sandbox for a one day’er. And yeah, that was a great trip hanging out and riding BBRSP - soul nourishing.

So - thinking the Chiso-Pinto loop Cannonshot wrote up as part of his outstanding BB write up on ADVRider.
i-X8FVrp6-XL.jpg


He pegs the loop from Presidio at 250 miles - add in the run to/from Study Butte and we’re talking 375 or so. One option I’m thinking about is loading the bike in the truck, leaving very early and unloading in Presidio. I know a safe place to leave vehicles (3 Palms). That won’t really save any time, but I’m more comfortable riding in the early to pre dawn in the truck and riding back in the dark the same way.
 
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170 continues north of Candelaria - or at least the road does - not sure if it is ofically 170 or not. It is unpaved and has a challenging hill to navigate known as Godzilla Hill.
 
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Heading down to BB. Just booked room. First time riding dual sport in TX. Setting up XR650 as I speak. D606 rubber, Jetted, piped, new air filter and tank. I look forward to meeting with everyone. Anybody want to talk before the ride, I'm interested to hear more. Obviously, I'm more interested in the dirt. Doesn't look like any single track, nor do I see alot of elvation or grade change. I'm tempted to keep stock gearing for the mileage. Any body with an XR650 go with a smaller countershaft sprocket.

Thanks,
Jeff
 
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Anybody in the Houston area feel like splitting gas and putting bikes in the back of my truck? I plan to pull a small camper too.
 

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It is not only the OJ crossing, it is ANY crossing.

Stay ~20 km from the border = No TVIP required
Stay less than 72 hours in above zone = No tourist visa required

Also half of Sonora and all of Baja California both Norte and Sur are Tourist hassle free zones. No TVIP ever required but a tourist visa is required for stays over 7 days.

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Missed this post until now. Thanks for the clarification.

Will the group be staying within 12.5 miles (20 kms) from the border?
 
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Booked my camping spot . Still looking for anyone near Houston to split gas and haul bikes in my truck instead of riding there.
 
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Paid with pay pal for two (2). My wife will not be riding but will attend meals.
Also have Motel room booked for Friday and Saturday nights. We probably make it to Terlingua on Friday.
Probably bring the DR-650.
 
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Registered for this ride! Can't wait to ride down from Austin, camp for the weekend, and explore the parks and canyons.

Last year I rode to Big Bend for the first time and didn't take full advantage of the dirt roads staying mainly with a group in the chisos area. That will change this year.

Just found out about twtex from Sonny at Woods Fun Center, thank you Sonny.
 

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Would I be able to find a place to camp in truck camper with bike trailer without reservations? No hookups etc, needed just a shell.
 

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Gordhead, I just saw your post here and was wondering, did you get any of the PM's I sent regarding the Hill Co 500 dates?
 
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I really want to do this! I'll be fishing in Laguna Madre but will see if the wife will let me ADD this to the menu! This looks really fun!
 
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My current plan is to leave Austin on Wednesday after work (6-ish) and drive straight through to Terlingua. If anyone is interested in carpooling, we can go in on a trailer rental and split gas and driving duties. Coming back on Sunday afternoon. Chevy Colorado extended cab, could easily handle 3 bikes on the trailer, three people in the cab, and gear in the bed. I'll be at the meet and greet at Twin Peaks on 3-01, and the TARA group ride in Austin on 3-03 if you want to discuss it further.
 
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With enough interest I am happy to lead another "Dos y Dos" ride same as I put on when I helped run the rally in 2015 and 2016. The idea was sub 200cc bikes and under 200 miles, hence "2 and 2". But, its open to any bike and rider, with 1st timers the emphasis.

We trailer in the A.M. to the east side of the park, a 55 minute drive. You can ride this if you're inclined. Unload at Rio Grande Village campsite. Make a 50 or so mile loop on River Road east to the Mariscal Mercury Mine, regroup, visit the rock pools at Ernst Tinajas, regroup, look over the overlook into Mexico at the Boquillas Canyon crossing, and end the afternoon with a soak in the hot springs on the Rio Grande.

This is a great ride for less adventurous riders who don't feel comfortable riding 200 mile days, folks on smaller bikes, bikes with limited fuel range (street legal 2 strokes?), and less miles if the weather is really cold. Total mileage is 85, with 2 opportunities to opt out or /and get gas at RGVillage.

Probably this will be a Friday ride. Any takers?

Peter
 

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With enough interest I am happy to lead another "Dos y Dos" ride same as I put on when I helped run the rally in 2015 and 2016. The idea was sub 200cc bikes and under 200 miles, hence "2 and 2". But, its open to any bike and rider, with 1st timers the emphasis.

We trailer in the A.M. to the east side of the park, a 55 minute drive. You can ride this if you're inclined. Unload at Rio Grande Village campsite. Make a 50 or so mile loop on River Road east to the Mariscal Mercury Mine, regroup, visit the rock pools at Ernst Tinajas, regroup, look over the overlook into Mexico at the Boquillas Canyon crossing, and end the afternoon with a soak in the hot springs on the Rio Grande.

This is a great ride for less adventurous riders who don't feel comfortable riding 200 mile days, folks on smaller bikes, bikes with limited fuel range (street legal 2 strokes?), and less miles if the weather is really cold. Total mileage is 85, with 2 opportunities to opt out or /and get gas at RGVillage.

Probably this will be a Friday ride. Any takers?

Peter
RGV has gas now?
 
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Peguis Canyon Info please???

I did some quick search on the Peguis Canyon but unable to find much detail. All I can find is the scenic overlook or canoe trip option (which may be an option depending on duration and bike/gear safety... any recommendations??). From the looks of it it is similar to Santa Elena Canyon in BB park.

What am I missing?
 
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Peguis Canyon Info please???

I did some quick search on the Peguis Canyon but unable to find much detail. All I can find is the scenic overlook or canoe trip option (which may be an option depending on duration and bike/gear safety... any recommendations??). From the looks of it it is similar to Santa Elena Canyon in BB park.

What am I missing?
The fun of Peguis is that it is in Mexico, obviously. And is at the end of a 100 miles ride from Terlingua. Fun and rolling hills all along the Rio Grande on the US side on 170.

On the Mexican side you'll find it to be boring, kinda hot, and dusty. About 20 miles in the road climbs a mountain. It gets fun, twisty, but still hot and dusty. At the top of the road you are overlooking Peguis. There is a monument. The view is amazing. Turn around, head back home. Well, that explains my trip. It was fun, a fairly long day in the saddle, and being in Mexico was interesting.



We did take the time to have lunch and drinks on the main square in Ojinaga on the mexican side. OJ, as they call it, is the only crossing for hundreds of miles and the Mexican side is built up quite a bit. Downtown is on the top of a small hill. we ate at a grat place with white tablecloths, exceptional service, and Tricepilot Bob knows the owner.

http://ahoramismo.mx/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/ojinaga-640x336.jpg

In a strange coincidence I wandered into a tiny roadside restaurant in the panhandle named OJ thinking it was probably the only place in 50 miles that would be airing a world cup soccer game. They were. Met a very cute nice Mexican girl, raised in Presidio and OJ. Turns out the restaurant in OJ was her uncle or great uncle's and she hung out there in the summer when not in Presidio with her mom. Small world.
 
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Thank you for the input.

I have ridden to Mexico several times (all road trips though, nothing like Copper Canyon) from Laredo to Saltillo, Monterrey, Ciudad Valles, Ciudad Victoria, Queretaro, Bernal, Dr.Arroyo, etc.

If it is just the overlook and riding there and back, I think I will opt for something else on the second day.

Again, thank you for the help.
 
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I'm looking for any one who will be in Terlingua on Thursday who might want to ride in BBNP. Maybe Maverick-River Road-Rio Grande Village, and then either backtrack to Talley/Black Gap or just back on pavement depending on time. Alternately ride in BBRSNA if you know the roads.
 
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I'm in! I missed out on a room at Big Bend Resort because I waited too long but I got a spot for my pop up camper. I just need to get my registration to Richard now. Looking forward to it. This will be my first trip to BB. :rider:
 

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I'm about to cancel my camping spot at Big Bend Resort. I'm not sure if these are hard to get or not. If they are and you want it let me know and I'll see if I can get it transferred to you.

If I don't hear anything I'll cancel it this afternoon.
 
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I'm looking for any one who will be in Terlingua on Thursday who might want to ride in BBNP. Maybe Maverick-River Road-Rio Grande Village, and then either backtrack to Talley/Black Gap or just back on pavement depending on time. Alternately ride in BBRSNA if you know the roads.
I will arrive on Thursday 4-5pm. If not too late, I am in.
 
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Are there any areas in big bend that we are allowed to ride that are more technical and hard? I rode all of the tracks from the old rally last year on my 800gs.
I’m coming these year on a tiger 800, but if there is some hard stuff, I would bring my Husqvarna 300. It’s a two stroke with low gearing, so it would suck on those open dirt roads...
 
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