I hear ya. Probably gotta narrow down my sandbox for a one day’er. And yeah, that was a great trip hanging out and riding BBRSP - soul nourishing.I did this route the year before you and I went to the State Park. Just running back from Marfa to Study Butte through the north side of the park, without a single detour, was about 135 miles IIRC and seemed like quite a ride. We arrived in Study Butte on fumes, with the WRX using all of it's whopping 2.0 gal tank. If we had played a bit we'd be forced to backtrack to Presidio for gas to make Study Butte.
Google maps puts your loop at 8h 18m and 275 miles going up Pinto Canyon. 294 if you go to Presidio for gas on the way home. I'd guess John and I did it in ~7 hours of riding with highway speeds of 65 - 70 on the DRZ400SM and WR250X and double prudent speeds on dirt. So, in a nutshell, I don't see there being a lot of extra time to play in the northern end of the State Park. I really enjoyed the riding you and I did up there. Roads the rangers hadn't themselves driven in 2 or 3 years...probably the least trafficked place I've ever been.
It is not only the OJ crossing, it is ANY crossing.Why is there no Tourist Visa and TVIP required at this crossing? Or do they overlook it if you say you're just going over for the day?
Hi John, for the last few years, every time I cross into OJ, I have been asked for registration receipt or title. The border agents are asking for documents to prove ownership. A few times I have been allowed in with just a printed copy of my Texas insurance card to verify the VIN number.
It sure would screwup the trip if the agents refused to let you in because you couldn't provide a document to show you own the bike you're riding. Make it easy, bring the registration receipt.
Is there another thread for route planning for this event? If so, please let me know where, if not here it is...
I have a proposition to big dual sport riders:
Friday: Terlingua to Marfa, down south on Pinto Canyon Road and then head north on 170 from Ruidosa and hit 2017 back towards US90 a bit north of Valentine Then whatever...
Saturday: Terlingua to Presidio and cross into Mexico at Ojinaga and visit Peguis canyon and head back ***will need passports but no other docs*** Time permitting, go back into USA, enter the park from Terlingua and ride Maverick road to Santa Elena Canyon(decent dirt with some sand washes but nothing too difficult really)
Please let me know if you would consider these two rides
I hear ya. Probably gotta narrow down my sandbox for a one day’er. And yeah, that was a great trip hanging out and riding BBRSP - soul nourishing.
So - thinking the Chiso-Pinto loop Cannonshot wrote up as part of his outstanding BB write up on ADVRider.
He pegs the loop from Presidio at 250 miles - add in the run to/from Study Butte and we’re talking 375 or so. One option I’m thinking about is loading the bike in the truck, leaving very early and unloading in Presidio. I know a safe place to leave vehicles (3 Palms). That won’t really save any time, but I’m more comfortable riding in the early to pre dawn in the truck and riding back in the dark the same way.
Missed this post until now. Thanks for the clarification.It is not only the OJ crossing, it is ANY crossing.
Stay ~20 km from the border = No TVIP required
Stay less than 72 hours in above zone = No tourist visa required
Also half of Sonora and all of Baja California both Norte and Sur are Tourist hassle free zones. No TVIP ever required but a tourist visa is required for stays over 7 days.