Ok, looking for some new boots and seeking some firsthand experience and comments. I’ve previously owned Astars Tech 7s, fit well, worked well, mostly track use. Heavy Africa Twin, smx6 work fine for road usage(maybe fire road) but are way too soft/flexible for 500lb bike in a tip over. Looking at the Tech7 enduro, but came across Sidi X power sc, for HALF of the best price I can find on the tech7s. No experience with Sidi, ie protection, sizing, longevity, but at $200 vs $420 ish, they seem hard to beat. Thnx beforehand for your time.
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Guy on here has some nice adventure boots for
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Sidi just what you were thinking about
Following closely as well. Currently have the Forma Adventure which I love. Probably one of the most comfortable boots I have ever owned. But they are too soft and flexible as well in case I go down. Looking forward to some feedback from other members about their choice of boots.
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I tour for the most part and currently have a pair of SIDI Adventure 2's.
Seems to be a stout / robust boot as I wanted good protection in addition to being waterproof.
They do squeak a bit while walking and in my opinion run about 1/2 size on the small side.
I wear a 9 1/2 and got a 43 in the SIDI...can get them on but a bit snug.
Seems to be a stout / robust boot as I wanted good protection in addition to being waterproof.
They do squeak a bit while walking and in my opinion run about 1/2 size on the small side.
I wear a 9 1/2 and got a 43 in the SIDI...can get them on but a bit snug.
Try them on and see what fits well. I was a huge Sidi fan for years and then they changed something and don't fit me as well as they used to. For me I found that they enlarged the heel cup, and trying my old boots with new boots side by side it just didn't work for me. Not being an A-Stars fan, I tried everything in the store and was surprised to find that the A-Stars fit be perfectly, and actually are way more comfortable than even my old Sidis. I've since picked up other style of boots in A-Stars and found the fit to be just as good.
Not saying you should go with one brand or another, but for me, boots and helmets must be tried on and ensure they are good, because if they aren't you'll hate them several hours into a ride. Too bad you aren't in DFW, because Motoliberty always stocks a ton of different stuff and is a good place to try on and buy. Not sure what's in your region but I'd go and try some out first.
All that said, I have no complaints about the Sidi quality. The old boots lasted me a very long time with a lot of commuting and touring miles spent in them.
Not saying you should go with one brand or another, but for me, boots and helmets must be tried on and ensure they are good, because if they aren't you'll hate them several hours into a ride. Too bad you aren't in DFW, because Motoliberty always stocks a ton of different stuff and is a good place to try on and buy. Not sure what's in your region but I'd go and try some out first.
All that said, I have no complaints about the Sidi quality. The old boots lasted me a very long time with a lot of commuting and touring miles spent in them.
Read the Forma Adventure boot description and in red it says they are not adventure riding (aggressive offroad riding) as most define it. The boot is for unpaved road touring. I had a pair, enjoyed them until they got super soft and I switched to AlpineStar Tech 7. Get MX boots, don't get confused by the name of the Forma Adventure boots.
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Tech 7s can't go wrong 
DFW_Warrior
Hmmmm.....
From what I have seen, most boots fall into two categories. First is they are very flexible and really won't do much to protect bones and joints, but some of them look wicked cool and all that stuff. The second category are true MX/offroad boots that while they protect you much better, pretty much suck to walk around in or be in all day unless you are hitting the trails in them.
For me, if I am doing light gravel road touring, I just wear the same thing I wear on pavement which are some Bates side zips and call it good. They don't look cool, but protect the same, and are comfortable. Anything zestier than that and I just wear Gaerne SG12's.
For me, if I am doing light gravel road touring, I just wear the same thing I wear on pavement which are some Bates side zips and call it good. They don't look cool, but protect the same, and are comfortable. Anything zestier than that and I just wear Gaerne SG12's.
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I've never understood the desire to wear a dirt bike boot just because you have an adventure bike. Unless you live somewhere where the roads regularly change from asphalt to gravel, sand and dirt and is littered with trees and rocks all over, I don't get it. That's the only time I need enhanced toe, ankle and shin protection which I've definitely made good use of.
In addition to parts of the TAT, a couple BDRs, Hatfield-McCoy, Coronado Trail and a bunch of other stuff in USA and Canada, I also rode every country in central America using road/touring boots and perhaps only 10% of all the trips through central America were considered true off-road. Not even parts of the SCORE 1000 course needed real dirt boots on an adv bike. I made my way through jungle muck, rock strewn desert and canyons mostly on Goretex lined touring boots with hardly any tread. Even my dirt boots got clogged up with mud and muck in Texas and would slip trying to push the bike along the path so I was never any worse off with touring soles. And I was certainly more comfortable 100% of the time, walking or riding. Also, because of their flexibility and mobility, I felt better in control because I could flex my ankles for balancing or shifting and braking rather than lifting my foot because the boot is too stiff.
A 500-650 lb adv bike isn't going to be phased by even a real dirt boot if it lands on you in a crash or even tip over. But I also have to ask, why is anyone allowing themselves to get trapped under their bike? Why are you not picking up that leg and separating yourself from that 650 lbs?
And as far as adv boots go, I honestly don't see many that have an aggressive enough sole to be worthy of the name "adv boot." Most are MX track treads barely better than any standard road boot when it comes to the treads on the sole. Seriously, just go for a true enduro boot with chonky treads.
Now, if you're riding that adv bike in the woods like SHNF or any off road park, by all means, wear those enduro boots. Save your toes and shins from tree stumps.
But if all you're doing is the gravel roads in the rural areas and forest service roads, why wear an uncomfortable and movement restrictive dirt boot all day?
In addition to parts of the TAT, a couple BDRs, Hatfield-McCoy, Coronado Trail and a bunch of other stuff in USA and Canada, I also rode every country in central America using road/touring boots and perhaps only 10% of all the trips through central America were considered true off-road. Not even parts of the SCORE 1000 course needed real dirt boots on an adv bike. I made my way through jungle muck, rock strewn desert and canyons mostly on Goretex lined touring boots with hardly any tread. Even my dirt boots got clogged up with mud and muck in Texas and would slip trying to push the bike along the path so I was never any worse off with touring soles. And I was certainly more comfortable 100% of the time, walking or riding. Also, because of their flexibility and mobility, I felt better in control because I could flex my ankles for balancing or shifting and braking rather than lifting my foot because the boot is too stiff.
A 500-650 lb adv bike isn't going to be phased by even a real dirt boot if it lands on you in a crash or even tip over. But I also have to ask, why is anyone allowing themselves to get trapped under their bike? Why are you not picking up that leg and separating yourself from that 650 lbs?
And as far as adv boots go, I honestly don't see many that have an aggressive enough sole to be worthy of the name "adv boot." Most are MX track treads barely better than any standard road boot when it comes to the treads on the sole. Seriously, just go for a true enduro boot with chonky treads.
Now, if you're riding that adv bike in the woods like SHNF or any off road park, by all means, wear those enduro boots. Save your toes and shins from tree stumps.
But if all you're doing is the gravel roads in the rural areas and forest service roads, why wear an uncomfortable and movement restrictive dirt boot all day?
I really like my Alpinestars Toucans.
DFW_Warrior
Hmmmm.....
This is a very important thing that I wish everyone would read. It is 100% true. I've seen so many broken ankles from 600lb bikes with bags of some sort on them. Bike starts to go over, they stick a leg out that ends up doing nothing to help, bike keeps going forward while falling over, and the bag/box lands on the ankle that is now trapped under the bike.
There are a LOT of ADV riders that are essentially street bike riders with no dirt experience, but now want the thrill of the ADV lifestyle. They are asking for trouble and most of the time, finding it.
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All the professional riders OEMS hire to do videos for their latest greatest adv bikes don't help. Yeah, a professional rally racer, MX racer or trials competitor can blow up berms, climb rutted up hills, lift and slide over fallen trees and pick their way through a rock garden on a decked out 650 lb adv bike, that they didn't buy with their own money, and make it look easy. They can go balls out on it, crash a few times and a camera crew cleans it up or gives them the spare one to complete the video. Then they go home, not worrying about the lasting effects of the abuse on the bike that they didn't pay for. That's not us. Ok, that's not me. It borders on irresponsible making potential customers believe they can ride like a super hero. But I believe in personal responsibility. They're trying to sell a bike. It's up to me to not be a *******.This is a very important thing that I wish everyone would read. It is 100% true. I've seen so many broken ankles from 600lb bikes with bags of some sort on them. Bike starts to go over, they stick a leg out that ends up doing nothing to help, bike keeps going forward while falling over, and the bag/box lands on the ankle that is now trapped under the bike.
There are a LOT of ADV riders that are essentially street bike riders with no dirt experience, but now want the thrill of the ADV lifestyle. They are asking for trouble and most of the time, finding it.
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This made me smile, because I think about the thrill of ADV lifestyle as sort of "Cosplay" in this context. I have often wondered why, when folks buy a particular kind of bike, they insist on adopting the cultural norm of dress for that style of bike. We all do it to some extent, it is natural for us to want to fit in. But, we do silly things because of brand loyalty, price, advertising, YouTube vids, etc.
After years of chasing the fun times on the track, I had settled on Sidi boots, but like Jasen says, the newer ones are a little odd now. But I love mine on the track and from time to time I wear them on the street rides. For dirt I have some Sidi Motocross boots for if I might be tossing the 380 lb. DR650 on myself. I have a pair of Forma I think Boulder boots for the trials bike, but I prefer the other pair of Sidi Trials boots I have. Also, I have a pair of A-Star SMX boots which cover up to the ankle I use on the street as well. Most of them are alright to walk in as well. I have tried hiking miles in them, but I find them comfortable. I don't have water proof boots, all of mine are vented when possible and I generally am a fair weather rider. Of course I get caught out from time to time or cross a river so there are times I get them wet.
So what is my point? Jasen is right, go somewhere and put on some boots and walk around in them, try to sit as you do on your bike and you will be happier. Or use a company like Motorcyclegear.com and ship them back and forth until you get one you like.
I do see, from outside of it, that the ADV lifestyle seems to involve buying high end machines and then squabbling over the price of farkles and gear. Kind makes me smile most days, but I love all God's Children, especially those of us blessed with the motorcycle gene.
P.S. I used O'Reilly's 10W30 oil in my Jeep and run factory Suzuki oil, 10W40 in my DR650. I love my KTMs and think the parts are cheap. I guess that covers it for now. Enjoy.
DFW_Warrior
Hmmmm.....
I'm 100% with you on that. Luckily for me I grew up on the dirt side of things so I darn well know that I can be just as terrible of a rider with the new fancy bike, as I can the older one that I already own.
But I will say, Pol Tarres did help me score one heck of a deal on my T7 because of all of the tanked values of all the guys that didn't realize that it was Pol's world class trials background that was the reason he can ride like he does. Who would have thought it wasn't the bike after all?!??!
WTB: off-road boots
Op has dibs but I mis spoke about the size, they are 9s, not 10s. I will update if he passes on them being smaller and post pics etc in that event
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I was a safety officer in Houston Area #1 HOG chapter a long time ago. Should've seen the looks I'd get riding a H-D in a 1-piece textile suit, modular helmet, racing gloves and boots.
I must be a weirdo wearing blue jeans and armored shirt on my ADV bike.
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Protection is a spectrum. On one end you have those odd people that seem to enjoy riding naked 
On the other end you have people in full armored gear, air vest, carbon fiber reinforced gloves, knee braces and the beefiest MX boots they can find. Some naked idiot might never have an accident and swear that all the gear in the world is a waste of money. Some totally geared up safety freak can end up just as dead as those suicidal squirrels that must have family trouble at home and can't decide which way to run when my truck is bearing down on them. There are no guarantees. You can only play the odds and try to stack the cards in your favor. We will ALL have different ideas of acceptable risks. I mean, the fact that we even ride shows that we have a higher risk tolerance than many other people that think of bikes as nothing more than murdercycles 
Gear is about more than just a crash. It is about protection from the elements while also trying to keep it comfortable to wear. There are so many compromises to be made that it is crazy. If the gear is so uncomfortable that you never wear it and fail to ride, then it is worthless for you. Not everyone can afford or needs the top of the line stuff, even if it might be "worth the money".
Somewhere I read an article about the human body's ability to cope with trauma. It mentioned that the body is actually fairly resilient if there is only one serious trauma, assuming it is not something that just kills you outright, like broken limbs, internal bleeding, ruptured organs, etc,... All stuff that might eventually kill you without medical treatment, but generally stuff you can survive and recover from if treated. However, a combination of serious traumas, each of which alone might not kill you, can radically reduce your chance of survival. The conclusion was that most people in average physical health can handle one, maybe two, and in the extreme case three different traumas before the body is just overwhelmed. For me, good gear is NOT about preventing the possibility of ANY injury in all cases, an impossible goal. It is about increasing the odds that if something does go bad, any injuries I might receive will be as minimal as possible to hopefully avoid that potentially deadly combination of traumas. My SIDI Adventure Rain boots may not ALWAYS protect my ankles from my 600 lb GS if it lands on them just right, but they do increase the odds of my ankles surviving in other cases and of minimizing any injury they might receive. The same is true for my pants, jacket, gloves, and helmet. Road rash alone is considered to be a major trauma, so just eliminating that helps reduce your chance of hitting that magic three serious injuries. This is why I NEVER ride without gear, even if I am just cruising around my neighborhood or running down to the corner store. When my body hits the ground, it will not care why? It will only care about how fast and hard it hits and what is between it and the ground.
I bought the boots I have because they are GoreTex and I wanted waterproof boots. I was tired of wet socks and boots. I bought my pants and jacket for much the same reason. I was tired of packing rain suits and trying to put them on before getting hosed or constantly putting them on, getting too hot, taking them off, having to put them right back on, rinse and repeat. I also wanted impact and abrasion protection. The same is true for my gloves and helmet. I have done the 70 mph slide on chip sealed pavement and walked away because of quality gear. I have had some pretty whacked out get offs doing the ADV thing and walked away... albeit with a headache and sore neck. I have had a deer give me a smack down the ONE time I was not wearing my ADV boots and now I have screws permanently installed in my left ankle. My ADV boots might not have made the difference, but then again... they might have. My gear is comfortable. I wear it even when it is hot. It vents well and that combined with moisture wicking base layers makes a HUGE difference. I ride even when it gets freaking hot in the summer. I draw the line at 35F because of the chance of ice, not because I can't keep myself warm. I ride in the rain and like to stay mostly dry. All this gear does not guarantee that I will always come out fine and walk away, but it stacks the cards in my favor enough that I am okay with taking the risks.
Training is the same as gear. You can learn from the school of hard knocks. I do not recommend it. Been there, done that. It hurts and is expensive. Training is cheap in comparison to damage to most modern bikes and especially even a minor trip to the ER. If you take it seriously it WILL reduce the chances of you getting hurt and/or tearing up your bike. It is NOT a guarantee, just like the gear, but it helps to stack the odds in your favor. Learning how to ride smart, riding for the conditions, avoiding getting caught up in testosterone competitions, and the like can also make a huge difference.
The key thing to remember is that you can do everything RIGHT and still come out on the wrong end... Life is just annoying that way
My SIDI Adventure Rain boots are hinged at the ankle to allow the foot to more easily flex in the up/down direction for walking, shifting, and braking. They are reinforced to prevent lateral rotation of the ankle, which is what broke my ankle when I was not wearing them and the deer took me out. If a big rock hits the front toe section at any serious speed, and that has happened, it freaking hurts. However, my toe was not broken, just sore for a day. I use soft side bags on my GS for the reason DFW_Warrior mentioned. I don't want to have a leg caught by a metal bag and snapped. I get made fun of for standing almost 100% of the time when I ride my GS off the pavement, but hard won experience has taught me that is MUCH easier to eject and get away from the bike if needed when I am standing than when I am sitting. It also just handles better and feels more natural to me. These boots are comfortable when I am standing all day and when I walk in them. I used them for a 50 day 8200 mile trip where I was in them pretty much all day, every day, until the end of the day. They were great. No, they don't give the protection of a full MX boot, but again, it is about compromise. I don't know that I could have done that trip in a full MX boot without a lot of discomfort that would have made me not want to ride at all. I purchased the first pair in 2013 and used them until 2023. I had a second pair sitting in the closet and decided to start wearing them for no particular reason. The original ones are in the closet and are still perfectly good. They are still waterproof. All the orginal straps are still intact. The were expensive up front, but spread out over 10 years it was $50/year. I crash tested them far to often
They never failed to do their job. 
On the other end you have people in full armored gear, air vest, carbon fiber reinforced gloves, knee braces and the beefiest MX boots they can find. Some naked idiot might never have an accident and swear that all the gear in the world is a waste of money. Some totally geared up safety freak can end up just as dead as those suicidal squirrels that must have family trouble at home and can't decide which way to run when my truck is bearing down on them. There are no guarantees. You can only play the odds and try to stack the cards in your favor. We will ALL have different ideas of acceptable risks. I mean, the fact that we even ride shows that we have a higher risk tolerance than many other people that think of bikes as nothing more than murdercycles Gear is about more than just a crash. It is about protection from the elements while also trying to keep it comfortable to wear. There are so many compromises to be made that it is crazy. If the gear is so uncomfortable that you never wear it and fail to ride, then it is worthless for you. Not everyone can afford or needs the top of the line stuff, even if it might be "worth the money".Somewhere I read an article about the human body's ability to cope with trauma. It mentioned that the body is actually fairly resilient if there is only one serious trauma, assuming it is not something that just kills you outright, like broken limbs, internal bleeding, ruptured organs, etc,... All stuff that might eventually kill you without medical treatment, but generally stuff you can survive and recover from if treated. However, a combination of serious traumas, each of which alone might not kill you, can radically reduce your chance of survival. The conclusion was that most people in average physical health can handle one, maybe two, and in the extreme case three different traumas before the body is just overwhelmed. For me, good gear is NOT about preventing the possibility of ANY injury in all cases, an impossible goal. It is about increasing the odds that if something does go bad, any injuries I might receive will be as minimal as possible to hopefully avoid that potentially deadly combination of traumas. My SIDI Adventure Rain boots may not ALWAYS protect my ankles from my 600 lb GS if it lands on them just right, but they do increase the odds of my ankles surviving in other cases and of minimizing any injury they might receive. The same is true for my pants, jacket, gloves, and helmet. Road rash alone is considered to be a major trauma, so just eliminating that helps reduce your chance of hitting that magic three serious injuries. This is why I NEVER ride without gear, even if I am just cruising around my neighborhood or running down to the corner store. When my body hits the ground, it will not care why? It will only care about how fast and hard it hits and what is between it and the ground.
I bought the boots I have because they are GoreTex and I wanted waterproof boots. I was tired of wet socks and boots. I bought my pants and jacket for much the same reason. I was tired of packing rain suits and trying to put them on before getting hosed or constantly putting them on, getting too hot, taking them off, having to put them right back on, rinse and repeat. I also wanted impact and abrasion protection. The same is true for my gloves and helmet. I have done the 70 mph slide on chip sealed pavement and walked away because of quality gear. I have had some pretty whacked out get offs doing the ADV thing and walked away... albeit with a headache and sore neck. I have had a deer give me a smack down the ONE time I was not wearing my ADV boots and now I have screws permanently installed in my left ankle. My ADV boots might not have made the difference, but then again... they might have. My gear is comfortable. I wear it even when it is hot. It vents well and that combined with moisture wicking base layers makes a HUGE difference. I ride even when it gets freaking hot in the summer. I draw the line at 35F because of the chance of ice, not because I can't keep myself warm. I ride in the rain and like to stay mostly dry. All this gear does not guarantee that I will always come out fine and walk away, but it stacks the cards in my favor enough that I am okay with taking the risks.
Training is the same as gear. You can learn from the school of hard knocks. I do not recommend it. Been there, done that. It hurts and is expensive. Training is cheap in comparison to damage to most modern bikes and especially even a minor trip to the ER. If you take it seriously it WILL reduce the chances of you getting hurt and/or tearing up your bike. It is NOT a guarantee, just like the gear, but it helps to stack the odds in your favor. Learning how to ride smart, riding for the conditions, avoiding getting caught up in testosterone competitions, and the like can also make a huge difference.
The key thing to remember is that you can do everything RIGHT and still come out on the wrong end... Life is just annoying that way
My SIDI Adventure Rain boots are hinged at the ankle to allow the foot to more easily flex in the up/down direction for walking, shifting, and braking. They are reinforced to prevent lateral rotation of the ankle, which is what broke my ankle when I was not wearing them and the deer took me out. If a big rock hits the front toe section at any serious speed, and that has happened, it freaking hurts. However, my toe was not broken, just sore for a day. I use soft side bags on my GS for the reason DFW_Warrior mentioned. I don't want to have a leg caught by a metal bag and snapped. I get made fun of for standing almost 100% of the time when I ride my GS off the pavement, but hard won experience has taught me that is MUCH easier to eject and get away from the bike if needed when I am standing than when I am sitting. It also just handles better and feels more natural to me. These boots are comfortable when I am standing all day and when I walk in them. I used them for a 50 day 8200 mile trip where I was in them pretty much all day, every day, until the end of the day. They were great. No, they don't give the protection of a full MX boot, but again, it is about compromise. I don't know that I could have done that trip in a full MX boot without a lot of discomfort that would have made me not want to ride at all. I purchased the first pair in 2013 and used them until 2023. I had a second pair sitting in the closet and decided to start wearing them for no particular reason. The original ones are in the closet and are still perfectly good. They are still waterproof. All the orginal straps are still intact. The were expensive up front, but spread out over 10 years it was $50/year. I crash tested them far to often
They never failed to do their job. 
For any off-road riding I switch from leather boots to MX boots. Gaerne is my drug of choice for all that it matters.
I’ve had the wonderful experience of going over the bars right after shift up to third on my little DR350 and my foot basically being connected to the bike by virtue of being stuck between the shifter and peg (I think I caught a rock just right that had been disturbed by the bike in front of me and it kicked the front wheel completely sideways). Anyway, the MX boot with its hinged ankle saved me from a nasty broken something or other down there. I felt the boot lock out and then pop out from the side all while I was root plowing the ground with my helmet and shoulder pad. I rode away from that one with no serious injuries.
I’ve had the wonderful experience of going over the bars right after shift up to third on my little DR350 and my foot basically being connected to the bike by virtue of being stuck between the shifter and peg (I think I caught a rock just right that had been disturbed by the bike in front of me and it kicked the front wheel completely sideways). Anyway, the MX boot with its hinged ankle saved me from a nasty broken something or other down there. I felt the boot lock out and then pop out from the side all while I was root plowing the ground with my helmet and shoulder pad. I rode away from that one with no serious injuries.
Well, fwiw, update on the boots. I ordered the Sidi power sc boots. Impression so far is **** good gear. They fit really nicely, (was worried about them being narrow) seem to be put together well, time will bear this out, and for new boots, are surprisingly comfortable. Sizing runs true, no hot spots or pinch points, and after getting buckles adjusted to fit, for off-road boots, pretty darn comfortable. Only about 7hours on them, so for, but especially for the $200 price, I’m quite pleased. Cant see where the Tech 7s would have justified the 125% price difference. Time will tell…
Thankfully we weren't the "one" to be the "one" this time...
Buttt seeing the oil is out of container so to speak and our years of experience went into the formation of blending Castrol Power1 10w40 & Rotella 20w50 in a 60/40 ratio for our DR650SM ...
As to what
, Caterpillar composition safety toe (larger toe box) waffle sole work boots best color coordinated with your belt YMMV...
Another safety-boot rider. Red Wing King Toe here. 8” lace-up, composition toe, waterproof, insulated and electrical safe, Not really on topic as I ride on road, albeit not all pavedAs to what
I would wear proper motorcycle footwear if anyone made some big and wide enough
Respect
no "cosplay" with Red Wings..Also all roads rider here, DR650S and All-terrain rear tires on the trike
... Back in the day Simpson High Top Race Boots to keep those little Piggy's safe..
