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Crappy Ethanol Gas

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Well here in Cali our gas is just crap and its worse during winter months. Wanted something to combat the ethanol in our gas so was looking at BelRay All-In-One. But kept coming back to the K100 Treatment so got on Amazon and got a 32oz bottle that the UPS man just dropped off. Will put it in the bike tomorrow or the next day and run some in the GF's car also.......https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D6HMQ8/?tag=twowhetex-20

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RTL

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Videos on YouTube demonstrate that by mixing about 10% water with ethanol containing gasoline the water will absorb the ethanol and settle out in the bottom of the container where it can be drained off leaving only the gasoline.
 

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Winter formulation is like watered down tea, larger metro areas get water. I noticed a performance drop in November and if doing a track day or autocross some additive would be in order.
Expect a letter from CARB any minute now Joe, if your cows produce methane it's prison time. Enjoy Cali. :rider:
 
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Winter formulation is like watered down tea, larger metro areas get water. I noticed a performance drop in November and if doing a track day or autocross some additive would be in order.
Expect a letter from CARB any minute now Joe, if your cows produce methane it's prison time. Enjoy Cali. :rider:

Jesus just what i need. a bunch of delusional liberals on me like **** hounds....https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/homepage :giveup::giveup::giveup:
 
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Expect a letter from CARB any minute now Joe, if your cows produce methane it's prison time. Enjoy Cali. :rider:
That's funny... I always thought dairy products came from milk and milk came from cows. California is the top milk producing state in the US. They output about 4 times what Texas does.

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Osmosis spray, get some. It's located to your right in aisle 3.

That juice you bought is a non issue, I like clean air and remember when every vehicle belched unburnt fuel as designed. Engineering and technology made us cleaner fossil fuel addicts, CARB made lawn equipment better and implemented vapor recovery. Both good.

RXP was big around here at one time, expensive but allowed a few daughter beater cars to pass smog inspection after a failed test. Ethanol attracts water then produces carbon build up when burned, mileage goes down and the throttle gets muddy. I recall spirited discussion here in 2005 when it was mandated, let us know if that juice does the trick.
 

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That's funny... I always thought dairy products came from milk and milk came from cows. California is the top milk producing state in the US. They output about 4 times what Texas does.

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Yes and true, ride past any bovine holding facility and the methane is thick. I was making fun of CARB studies in years past at dairy farms, I think they were trying to legislate cow poop.
 
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Osmosis spray, get some. It's located to your right in aisle 3.

That juice you bought is a non issue, I like clean air and remember when every vehicle belched unburnt fuel as designed. Engineering and technology made us cleaner fossil fuel addicts, CARB made lawn equipment better and implemented vapor recovery. Both good.

RXP was big around here at one time, expensive but allowed a few daughter beater cars to pass smog inspection after a failed test. Ethanol attracts water then produces carbon build up when burned, mileage goes down and the throttle gets muddy. I recall spirited discussion here in 2005 when it was mandated, let us know if that juice does the trick.


Will do...
 
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Videos on YouTube demonstrate that by mixing about 10% water with ethanol containing gasoline the water will absorb the ethanol and settle out in the bottom of the container where it can be drained off leaving only the gasoline.
If the water is on the bottom how do you drain it off? I would like to see that done. But in reality I will never do it anyway. I just buy non-eth. When I tried the Startron I noticed the crummy gas still ran poorly. The non eth stuff I use is noticeably better performing.
 
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OK Irish, I know a few places north of Beaumont that sell neat gas, where are you getting it?
 

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For those that live near a Buccees I noticed they have a sign on their pumps that says ethanol free gas is coming soon.
 
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For those that live near a Buccees I noticed they have a sign on their pumps that says ethanol free gas is coming soon.
It will depend on the Buc-ee's, only the ones out in the sticks. It can't be all locations as against the law to sell in metro areas I believe.
 
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OK Irish, I know a few places north of Beaumont that sell neat gas, where are you getting it?
I get mine at a convenience store in Toomey, LA where you turn to go the the casino, 91 octane. Or at a couple little convenience stores near Cravens/Kisatchie NF in LA where I go db'ing. I only use it in my db's. Since the Andelina NF closed I never get north of Silsbee.
 
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Thanks Irish- I️ didn’t realize there were any close to cravens/ enduro trail
 
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The ethanol in 87 or any grade for that matter carries some energy producing equivalent- possibly octane, if separated from 87, I️t will definitely no longer meet spec for 87 octane. At least that is how I️t has been explained to me- you can leave a container of ethanol gas in an open container around here and I️t will turn cloudy- that cloudiness is moisture absorption from the air.


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The ethanol in 87 or any grade for that matter carries some energy producing equivalent- possibly octane, if separated from 87, I️t will definitely no longer meet spec for 87 octane. At least that is how I️t has been explained to me.
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Remove the 10% max ethanol from gasoline will only lower the octane by about 2 points so 87 octane would become 85.
 
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I travel from Frisco, Tx up to Arbuckle lake in Ok at least once a week. Once I get up near the border non-ethanol fuel is readily available. I have been trying to fill up with it in my pickup as often as possible as it just requires 87 octane. My problem is that both of my motorcycles require high test gas. I'm pretty sure that all of the non-ethanol is 87 octane. Anybody have better info on this?
 
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