Since selling my DL1000 a little over a year ago, I've been trying to turn my 17 CRF250L into a do it all bike (or at least all I want to do). The seat was the first limiting factor for long rides but Terry Adcox took care of that. Now its the shoulder pain after 4 hours or so. Even with stretching and short breaks at fuel stops and changing ride position, the shoulder discomfort persists. So....if you've had this problem and tried bar risers, did they help?......or, other than large amounts of your favorite pain reliever, what did help?..Thanks.....Dave.