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Electric Okay or Die Hard ICE?

Will you keep your ICE bike once electric takes over?

  • Yes

    Votes: 81 91.0%
  • No

    Votes: 8 9.0%

  • Total voters
    89
A disposable commodity for a disposable world , there’s going to be one big pile of trash when it’s all over . I’m doing my best to not contribute to it . I try to only buy things I can get many years of reliable service from but it’s getting really difficult .
 
A disposable commodity for a disposable world , there’s going to be one big pile of trash when it’s all over . I’m doing my best to not contribute to it . I try to only buy things I can get many years of reliable service from but it’s getting really difficult .
What do you think the current generation of young people will do? They are all raised on single serving packaging and disposable items. They trade their phone once a year. They pay for food delivery. They don't own but subscribe (monthly). What values will they have toward conserving resources and energy?
 
What do you think the current generation of young people will do? They are all raised on single serving packaging and disposable items. They trade their phone once a year. They pay for food delivery. They don't own but subscribe (monthly). What values will they have toward conserving resources and energy?

None whatsoever, despite all the claimed concern about the environment.
 
None whatsoever, despite all the claimed concern about the environment.
Spot on. For a generation that screams "save the environment" they are the most "disposable" generation. My son asked me, "What the heck are you doing, Dad?
Me: Um, drinking from the garden hose. I'm thirsty.
Son: Dad, you can trade in your (paid for) F150 for that new F150 EV Lightning. You can power the whole house in an emergency
Me: No, I have an $800 dollar dual fuel generator that will do that.

I recall a photo of a Florida beach following Spring Break 2019. Looks like the local landfill.
 
I'll buy an electric motorcycle when I can fill it up just as quickly as I can splosh 89 ctane in my tiger. I'll buy an electric motorcycle as soon as I can repair it and work on it as easily as I can my sportster. Until then, they can shove it. This is just like when 4 strokes took over the MX world, and eventually the bikes were far less reliable, cost twice as much, and the maintenance could be THREE TIMES as much.
 
None whatsoever, despite all the claimed concern about the environment.

We are doomed and it's all on purpose via education indoctrination and the removal of individual critical thinking.
Herd (sheep) mentality fostered by socialist media shaming will be the death of the nation, as soon as they can decide what gender to be.

I will be a "Die HARD" because I wouldn't participate if I could afford it, which I can't.
 
I’m just not sure how a battery exchange would work in the US. EU, Asia there are high concentrations of people on two wheels. Here, you just don’t see that. Yes, on nice days you will see more bikes than normal on the road, but I’m not sure the numbers support someone keeping batteries on hand. I can see dealers having them, but not so much outside of urban zones. I can go Houston to SA on a single tank on my Vstrom1000, and I think most new EV cars could make that trip on a single charge. Would an EV bike be able to do that? Bikes are already challenged with limited range, and I just wonder how the EV bike would compare
 
I’m just not sure how a battery exchange would work in the US. EU, Asia there are high concentrations of people on two wheels. Here, you just don’t see that. Yes, on nice days you will see more bikes than normal on the road, but I’m not sure the numbers support someone keeping batteries on hand. I can see dealers having them, but not so much outside of urban zones. I can go Houston to SA on a single tank on my Vstrom1000, and I think most new EV cars could make that trip on a single charge. Would an EV bike be able to do that? Bikes are already challenged with limited range, and I just wonder how the EV bike would compare

I don't think any of the current electric bikes would make it. they're usually pretty limited, especially as you start going faster.
 
I hope these lessons are learned quickly outside of Texas so we don't suffer as much and enough people realize the real issues to slow their roll.
 
ooopsie again!!!

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I'll buy an electric motorcycle when I can fill it up just as quickly as I can splosh 89 ctane in my tiger. I'll buy an electric motorcycle as soon as I can repair it and work on it as easily as I can my sportster. Until then, they can shove it. This is just like when 4 strokes took over the MX world, and eventually the bikes were far less reliable, cost twice as much, and the maintenance could be THREE TIMES as much.
The old 2 strokes were never as reliable as a modern 4 stroke. I chainged the top end every 4 race days with some practice time in there as well. suspension sucked, but yes cost did go way up, we fif not have to deal with valves, timing chains, so it was quick and easy.
The worst part is i just never get to smell my castrol mix any more.
 
When ICE catches fire, they are easily extinguished
Yes, there’s a huge difference how a battery vehicle almost instantaneously consumes the vehicle and how hard it is to extinguish the fire. I have not looked into the exact reason these electric vehicle fires start or how common, but it is a main driver for my lack of enthusiasm along with replacement cost of all the batteries. My regular car batteries never last as long as they claim they should. Not sure a total electric vehicle would be any better. Willing to wait and hoping to see some conversion options develop as well.
 
The old 2 strokes were never as reliable as a modern 4 stroke. I chainged the top end every 4 race days with some practice time in there as well. suspension sucked, but yes cost did go way up, we fif not have to deal with valves, timing chains, so it was quick and easy.
The worst part is i just never get to smell my castrol mix any more.
I wouldn't consder a 1975 YZ125 to be as reliable as a 2023 YZ250F, but I'm talking modern for modern. When I moved up to 125's the 250F's were becoming the common theme. Guys who were fast were doing top end jobs on their 250F's as often as I was doing top end jobs on my 2005 KX125, but at three times the cost. There was also a lot more to go wrong, considering you're spinning up valves, timing chains, cam(s) and other things at 12,000RPM and they were constantly broke. Now I'll admit, having not raced since 2008 and only keeping up with the sport on the professional level since then, I don't know if the 4 strokes now are as bad as they were in the mid 2000's, but with the resurgence in popularity of 2 strokes on the Amateur level, with cost of maintenance and acquiring being one of the big reasons, I'd say not much has changed.
 
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