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Is Mexico Safe? A Report From The War Zone

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Will be dropping all the recon stuff here

PS Greetings from Oaxaca

Will develope a response to this question:

"You're going to Mexico, are you :loco: ?"
 

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We dont have to ask, we know you!
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Hwy 175 into Oaxaca from Veracruz was twisty and scenic.

However, there is a LOT of storm damage from the recent rains. This is not a road to take at night (night is not a good time to travel in Mexico for many reasons).

The road is clear but there are sections where the earth has dropped away, leaving one lane.

There are dramatic views on this road. It is sparsly populated but worth every mile.

From several vantage points, you can look off into the distance and see major slides.

Weather today was clear and dry, blue skies all around.

Split up from the guys I rode here with, they're taking off in the morning for San Cristobal de las Casas and Palenque for the BMW rally, I'm staying behind in Oaxaca for 5 days to explore the valleys around the city, and the city itself.

We'll hook up this weekend for the trip north.

Kiko was on his way here, made it to Cuernavaca but his bike started giving him fits, so he's turning around for Ajijic.

I don't have a capture program on this netbook, so if someone could capture the Spot pings from today and add them, that would be nice.

Suerte
 
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Hwy 175 into Oaxaca from Veracruz was twisty and scenic.

However, there is a LOT of storm damage from the recent rains. This is not a road to take at night (night is not a good time to travel in Mexico for many reasons).

The road is clear but there are sections where the earth has dropped away, leaving one lane.

There are dramatic views on this road. It is sparsly populated but worth every mile.

From several vantage points, you can look off into the distance and see major slides.

Weather today was clear and dry, blue skies all around.

Split up from the guys I rode here with, they're taking off in the morning for San Cristobal de las Casas and Palenque for the BMW rally, I'm staying behind in Oaxaca for 5 days to explore the valleys around the city, and the city itself.

We'll hook up this weekend for the trip north.

Kiko was on his way here, made it to Cuernavaca but his bike started giving him fits, so he's turning around for Ajijic.

I don't have a capture program on this netbook, so if someone could capture the Spot pings from today and add them, that would be nice.

Suerte

Saludos
 
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Hey Trice,
Are you OK? Haven't heard any of your wit in a couple days, nor has your SPOT moved.....

Then again, maybe no service to the 'net?
 
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I've completely unpacked the bike, to include the GPS and the SPOT tracker.

I've been running up and down the Oaxacan valleys:

Teotitlan de Valle

Hierve el Agua

Mitla

Tule

Monte Alban

Coyotepec

Culilapan de Guerrero

Arrazola

I'm taking lots of pictures but the internet connection won't cooperate here at the hotel, just when I'm about to upload to Smugmug, the connection drops off.

I'll either have to wait for the next hotel (I leave Oaxaca Tuesday in the AM) or more probably, until I get home next weekend.

Got a bit lucky yesterday: Always wanted to visit Hierve el Agual (The Water Boils), and until yesterday, the road had been cut by landslides. It was slow going, but got there. Reminded me of the road to Batopilas :rider:
 
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I've run into a lot of european bus travelers in the restuarants here. They seem to take month long vacations and spend it wisely. Those that select Mexico, fly into Mexico City and then either rent a car or, more commonly, just take busses all over the place. The two couples I talked to yesterday, one from Germany and one from Denmark, were both taking the bus this morning to Puerto Escondido. I gave them information on Huatulco, which is where I'd hole up if I were to hole up on the Pacific coast. In fact, next trip, that's what I plan to do.
 
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Hierve el Agua (The Water Boils)

Getting here was dirt road up and down the mountain, but it was WELL worth the trip.

The falls are mineralized deposits combined with a stunning mountain setting
 
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The Arbol de Tule

Largest biomass in Mexico and one of the largest/oldest trees (the giant redwoods of California are bigger/older)
 
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As I sit here with a bag of ice on my right ankle, I have only one comment after reading this ride report.................

You're killing me with those photos!

:flip:
 
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As I sit here with a bag of ice on my right ankle, I have only one comment after reading this ride report.................

You're killing me with those photos!

:flip:
I received a message about you from Manuel in Guadalajara, about your bike.

What is the deal with your ankle???????? :eek2:
 
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a) Wrong pilot jet
b) Bad gas
c) Failed autodecompressor on camshaft
d) All of the above

No electric start, so ... Kick, kick, kick, kick, kick,........................:giveup:

First day the motor would die at every tope, autopista caseta, or when I slowed down in traffic. More to the story, but don't want to hijack the thread here.
 
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Don't worry Don, you'll have another shot at Oaxaca. Next on the radar is Pto Escondido, Pto Angel, & Huatulco. Those places deserve at least a week by themselves.

Here in Oaxaca, I've got 3 more days of exploration and 2 nights of Day of the Dead stuff to plow through.

The "different city every night" way of traveling Mexico is just NOT the way to do it. Especially Oaxaca.

Lots of gringo bus travelers but so far, the only moto travelers here besides me went to San Cristobal for the BMW rally.

PS I feel safer at night in Oaxaca than I do in San Antonio.
 
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Don't worry Don, you'll have another shot at Oaxaca. Next on the radar is Pto Escondido, Pto Angel, & Huatulco. Those places deserve at least a week by themselves.

Here in Oaxaca, I've got 3 more days of exploration and 2 nights of Day of the Dead stuff to plow through.

The "different city every night" way of traveling Mexico is just NOT the way to do it. Especially Oaxaca.

Lots of gringo bus travelers but so far, the only moto travelers here besides me went to San Cristobal for the BMW rally.

PS I feel safer at night in Oaxaca than I do in San Antonio.
http://tinyurl.com/36gaxa9

Im in for next shot to OAXACA
 
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Due to the nature of the internet connection, I had to upload one photo per post

Sidestand up at 0800 tomorrow morning, leaving Oaxaca after seeing 1/1000 of what she has to offer

Bus travelers, bike travelers, moto travelers from all over Mexico and the world find this a facinating city.

Nobody is having any trouble anywhere in Mexico, quite the opposite is true

The SPOT tracker will also be live as I head north out of Oaxaca

Taking a detour around D.F. and probably going to San Miguel de Allende

In the group that went to San Cristobal de las Casas for the BMW rally, there was a crash. More on that later.
 
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Just got a call from Tricepilot. He left Oaxaca de Juarez, Oaxaca this morning about 8 and rolled into San Miguel de Allende, GTO about 5 pm. Faster than a speeding bullet!

I've been showing all of my Mexican neighbors Bob's photos and translating his adventure for them in Spanish. They tell me that Bob is the "Goodwheel" ambassador for the America's.

Es verdad!

Just for grins, a photo of Zirahuen, Michoacan>>>>

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Holy Mole!

Two of Oaxaca's famous moles (mo-lay), this also at Mercado de Abastos this morning

mmm.. did you tasted and left those finger holes on it??:lol2:

Mole, The classic Central-South Mexico dish for weddings !!

Trice, Near San Miguel are some Precolombine Ruins as well, in case you have a chance.

arte
 
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Nice! wish I had the time, money, and lingual skills to experience this kind of adventure, which I would have to do solo.

My hat's off to you sir... :dude:
 
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Re: New Warning RE: Travel in Mexico

Tricepilot is in Santa Maria Del Rio, a pueblo in San Luis Potosi that is famous for its hand made silk rebozos, silk shawls. Looks like he's been there for at least an hour or so, probably just getting breakfast.
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One lazy Mexican at San Pedro...Me :rofl:

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Tomas fotos magnificos.

Parece un viaje bien divertido. Me gustaria hacer igual un dia...si puedo convencer mi mamacita subir al moto para ver su pais de distinto manera.
 

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Looks like Tricepilot is making a run for Nuevo Laredo by 5pm today or so. He appears about 30 clicks (18+/- miles) from the border.

Well wishes for a safe and speedy crossing mi amigo!

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Looks like he´s hold up in the La Posada in Laredo Tx. :trust:

Great report !!!! Looking forward to more pics.
 
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Looks like he´s hold up in the La Posada in Laredo Tx. :trust:

Great report !!!! Looking forward to more pics.
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You are correct, at La Posada I did stay.

Finished with the Colombia Bridge at about 5, and could have made it home but in the dark. Posada is always a nice stay.

This morning, with a cup of coffee in hand, I chatted with an employee as we watched the Border Patrol set about putting in an airboat in the Rio Grand right behind the hotel. The hotel itself had a section of driveway to the underground garage out fitted with razor wire, and the Border Patrol had cameras on that section. It appears that with the way things were constructed, it was a popular place at one time for swimmers to make landfall and get into the back alleys of Laredo - right through the hotel parking lot.

I'll be doing the full-blown report over on ADV. I need about a week to workflow the photos (two camera cards worth) and set about a proper write-up.
 
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