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Motorcycle first aid training

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Ladies & Gentlemen, over the last 12 months I have attended many dual sport rides and made many friends, however we had a few crashes and I was a bit horrified by the general lack of first aid knowledge by most of the riders.
I thought it might be a good idea to arrange a group first aid training, the focus being on typical injuries seen in motorcycle accidents. I contacted an organization called Road Guardians, they offer two courses (each course takes a day and requires 7 hours each) a basic course and an advanced course. Each course costs $60 and if I can get 10 participants they are willing to give both courses over a single weekend. I have a large room available at my house that can handle 10+ people and am happy to provide refreshments if there are 10 people that want to attend the course. You could attend just the basic course $60 or both the basic and advanced $120, the choice is yours. No date has been set, the trainer (Michelle Inzunza RN) is quite open for dates so we could set it up in the next few months. The cost includes the books/certificates/patches and instruction.

I currently have 5 confirmed attendees, so am wondering if there are 5 or more others in the McKinney area that would like to attend? It’s not cheap, but the skills will last a lifetime and could save your or someone else’s life!! Seems like a good use of a weekend!!

If you have questions or just want to confirm that you would like to attend, let me know. I am hoping to arrange a training date and have an idea of the number of attendees by the end of next week (19th January), no money will be required until the day of the training.

Regards Gary
 

Jeff S

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I'd be interested in the basic course - but you're a little far from me.

Austinites: perhaps we arrange something similar in our neck of the woods?

It would also be interesting or advantageous if the trainer could suggest a first aid kit that's small but covers what we'd most likely need.

Thinking for a bit: road rash is probably the big one, followed by broken ankle and then maybe collar bones or finger/hands? Or ribs & punctured lung? Or puncture wounds. OK, I guess there are a lot of possibilities...

I guess also figuring out how to be useful in more serious situations (deer / car collisions) would be good - but I doubt I'd be able to do more that dial 911 and block traffic (been there, done that).
 

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Ladies & Gentlemen, over the last 12 months I have attended many dual sport rides and made many friends, however we had a few crashes and I was a bit horrified by the general lack of first aid knowledge by most of the riders.
I thought it might be a good idea to arrange a group first aid training, the focus being on typical injuries seen in motorcycle accidents. I contacted an organization called Road Guardians, they offer two courses (each course takes a day and requires 7 hours each) a basic course and an advanced course. Each course costs $60 and if I can get 10 participants they are willing to give both courses over a single weekend. I have a large room available at my house that can handle 10+ people and am happy to provide refreshments if there are 10 people that want to attend the course. You could attend just the basic course $60 or both the basic and advanced $120, the choice is yours. No date has been set, the trainer (Michelle Inzunza RN) is quite open for dates so we could set it up in the next few months. The cost includes the books/certificates/patches and instruction.

I currently have 5 confirmed attendees, so am wondering if there are 5 or more others in the McKinney area that would like to attend? It’s not cheap, but the skills will last a lifetime and could save your or someone else’s life!! Seems like a good use of a weekend!!

If you have questions or just want to confirm that you would like to attend, let me know. I am hoping to arrange a training date and have an idea of the number of attendees by the end of next week (19th January), no money will be required until the day of the training.

Regards Gary
I'd be interested in at least the basic course, maybe even the advanced

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I hope this doesn't break any TWT rules, if you are interested in reading more about the training, the WEB site is https://roadguardians.org/schedule/ and the 2 courses they are suggesting are the basic course (called the 100 course) and the advanced (called the 300 course). If you go to the home page, click on the classes button then select class schedule and it will show all the classes. in the middle of the 100 course is a banner marked "basic class curriculum" click on that to see what is covered and in the 300 course is a "Advanced class curriculum" that you can click to see the contents. Or you can go directly using these links:-

Basic curriculum:- https://roadguardians.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Basic-Class-Curriculum.21.pdf?x74424
Advanced curriculum:- https://roadguardians.org/site/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Advanced-Class-Curriculum.2.pdf?x74424

Road Guardians have assured me that the training is specifically focused on Motorcycle type of injuries..

Regards Gary
 
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SpiritAtBay

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This is an awesome idea. Hope it goes well.

I agree with Jeff and hope we can set up similar events in different areas of the state.
 

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Great idea.
The problem I have is having the equipment to assist a fallen rider . Hard to carry things. There shouldn't be any open wounds if we ride with our gear. Internal injuries are the issue. Splints have to be made on the field, so I carry wraps.
Everyone should know basic CPR just as a fellow human.
Hope an Austin class comes about.

Thanks for posting.
 
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And THIS is one of the main reasons I push for universal BASIC TRAINING for all 18-year-olds. The first-aid I learned in Basic, among many other useful things, has saved at least 3 lives, and reduced trauma in dozens more since 1970.
I think this is a great idea. Wonder if EMS has any courses for the public like the CPR.
 
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Many thanks Mike, this is a great link, I really wanted a first aid course with more focus on splinting broken bones (arms, ribs, collarbones, etc) than the normal first aid course as those are the more common injuries that I have seen, and understanding how or if we should be moving an injured rider. I would recommend everyone take a basic first aid course, but the 2 courses I am proposing does cover everything that is included in a regular first aid course.

If you cant afford or don't have the time to attend the Road Guardian training the free first aid training is an excellent backup choice.

Gary
 
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Thanks Everyone, I have reached 10 participants, so things look good, there is still room for more, so if you are interested let me know.
Next week (Jan 15-19th) I will contact everyone via email and get a list of dates to avoid and preferred dates to try and see if I can arrange the course on a day that everyone can attend.

Regards Gary
 
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A great idea, and I hope to catch one eventually. As a former Medic and biker longer than that, I typically have a small bag. A large amount of, or very technical equipment isn't really needed. What's more important is to have some basic skills, and learning about operating in a roadside (or worse) environment. Protect yourself and the Patient. Good topic. Be safe.:rider::eat:
 
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Great idea.
The problem I have is having the equipment to assist a fallen rider . Hard to carry things. There shouldn't be any open wounds if we ride with our gear. Internal injuries are the issue. Splints have to be made on the field, so I carry wraps.
Everyone should know basic CPR just as a fellow human.
Hope an Austin class comes about.

Thanks for posting.
SAM Splints are small and light.

 
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While typically we need carry few medical thingies, some of us are used to carrying more. But whether one has medical supplies, tools or both, the training and staying calm are two of your best tools. No matter if the Bike or a buddy needs fixin', one can adapt and improvise.

A real important effort, besides calm actions, it to prevent the excited bystander from doing wrong things. Much of what they've seen from Hollywood is not accurate.
 
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Have you nailed down a date for this? Room for one more? I am very interested but my weekends fill up super fast.
 
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Have you nailed down a date for this? Room for one more? I am very interested but my weekends fill up super fast.
I am working on a date, currently we are down to 2 possible weekends, March 31/April 1 or April 14/15. for the minute I have 2 people that prefer the first weekend and 5 people that cant make the first weekend, so It is probably going to have to be on the 14/15th April. There is room for several more people if you want to join.

Gary
 

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I am working on a date, currently we are down to 2 possible weekends, March 31/April 1 or April 14/15. for the minute I have 2 people that prefer the first weekend and 5 people that cant make the first weekend, so It is probably going to have to be on the 14/15th April. There is room for several more people if you want to join.



Gary


I would like to attend if the Apr 14-15 dates are selected.

Thanks.


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Count me in on the 14 & 15th as well please. I am still open for the other weekends too if things change.
I will also most likely talk one or two of my riding partners into joining as well.
 
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Sorry everyone, there are 4 people that have not yet responded to my request for email address. Could you please respond, even if it’s just to say you won’t attend. I can then give the list of attendees to the company. I have reserved the weekend of 14/15 April for the training.

Gary
 
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Not to shame anyone, but I am waiting to get the email address and phone number plus confirmation if you will attend. Please let me know ASAP as I really want to get this training booked before we lose the date:-

C_M_Shooter
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we are currently at 8 attendees and need 10 (so need 2 more names if one of the 3 above want to attend) to make this course happen.
If anyone else is interested in attending, please let me know.

Regards Gary
 

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Not to shame anyone, but I am waiting to get the email address and phone number plus confirmation if you will attend. Please let me know ASAP as I really want to get this training booked before we lose the date:-

C_M_Shooter
Jetdr21
NWKLR

we are currently at 8 attendees and need 10 (so need 2 more names if one of the 3 above want to attend) to make this course happen.
If anyone else is interested in attending, please let me know.

Regards Gary
I'm too far out to attend but just wanted to say I think its great that your organizing such a worthy seminar.
 
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Everyone, I just wanted to apologise for the apparent lack of progress, the Nurse that gives the training has been ill with the Flu and is a bit behind schedule. She is trying to get everything setup and I should have more details and an active WEB link for everyone later this week. Sorry for the delay.

Gary
 
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Okay everyone, I do apologise for this taking so long, the nurse that gives the training has been sick (Flu) and wasn't able to set this up until now. Everyone that wants to attend is required to register before the course. for it to happen we require a minimum of 10 attendees. there are 2 courses, the basic course 18-100-28 and the advanced course 18-300-04.

Both courses are planned to start at 9:00am and will complete by 5:00pm with a 1 hour lunch break and a few coffee breaks as needed. Please bring your lunch as no food will be available at the location, drinks and coffee will be available!
The course will be held the weekend of 14/15 April, the basic course is on the 14th and the advanced on the 15th, the training will be held at 2268 County Road 852, McKinney. This location is approximately 5 miles west of McKinney on the US380 (very close to the intersection between Custer & US 380). If you have questions or need help, my phone number is 972 832 9602.

If you are interested in taking the course (either just the basic, or both the basic & advanced), please sign up as soon as possible so we will know if we have enough people to make it happen. If we can't get 10 people the Nurse will try to find a few other people to join and try to reach the 10 number, we will be limited to a maximum of 20 people, so I don't think we have any issues..
Remember this is a first aid training course, but with a specific focus on motorcycle related injuries, so broken bones, slings, accident scene management, etc.. You should all be thinking of taking a course like this if you ride Dual Sport where there is a reasonable chance one of your group will take a spill and injure themselves.. It pays to be prepared and trained.. Think of it as an investment for your future!!

Here is the link to register:- http://www.eiseverywhere.com/asm1810028

Thanks and hope to see some of you in April.

Gary
 
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Okay everyone, I do apologise for this taking so long, the nurse that gives the training has been sick (Flu) and wasn't able to set this up until now. Everyone that wants to attend is required to register before the course. for it to happen we require a minimum of 10 attendees. there are 2 courses, the basic course 18-100-28 and the advanced course 18-300-04.

Both courses are planned to start at 9:00am and will complete by 5:00pm with a 1 hour lunch break and a few coffee breaks as needed. Please bring your lunch as no food will be available at the location, drinks and coffee will be available!
The course will be held the weekend of 14/15 April, the basic course is on the 14th and the advanced on the 15th, the training will be held at 2268 County Road 852, McKinney. This location is approximately 5 miles west of McKinney on the US380 (very close to the intersection between Custer & US 380). If you have questions or need help, my phone number is 972 832 9602.

If you are interested in taking the course (either just the basic, or both the basic & advanced), please sign up as soon as possible so we will know if we have enough people to make it happen. If we can't get 10 people the Nurse will try to find a few other people to join and try to reach the 10 number, we will be limited to a maximum of 20 people, so I don't think we have any issues..
Remember this is a first aid training course, but with a specific focus on motorcycle related injuries, so broken bones, slings, accident scene management, etc.. You should all be thinking of taking a course like this if you ride Dual Sport where there is a reasonable chance one of your group will take a spill and injure themselves.. It trains to be prepared and trained.. Think of it as an investment for your future!!

Here is the link to register:- http://www.eiseverywhere.com/asm1810028

Thanks and hope to see some of you in April.

Gary
Thanks for putting this together. I'll sign up tonight. Hope it makes.

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I'm very interested and would make the drive but am scheduled to work those two weekends with no ability to be out.
I'll keep an eye out for future classes.

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Signed up and paid..
Many thanks, we now have 8 confirmed attendees, we need 10 for the course to run. The nurse has 2 people that would like to attend and would give us the required 10. She has agreed to give TWT riders 2 more weeks to sign up and will then ask her 2 reserve candidates if they want to attend.. sounds like this training is a go.. :eek2: of course we can be more than 10 so everyone is welcome to attend, even if we have 10 people there is room for more..

Looking forward to meeting everyone.

Gary
 
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The training will start at 9:00am both the 14th & 15th and finish at 5:00pm (probably earlier), so it would be good if people could be there by 8:45am to say hi and be ready for the training. There is secure covered parking available!!
The address is 2268 County Road 852, McKinney, TX 75071 and if you need to contact me for any reason, my number is 972 832 9602. If you have trouble finding the address, its about 200 yards from the intersection between US380 and Custer Rd, there is a large Wallmart at that intersection.

We will provide drinks and refreshment, but ask that people bring a packed lunch or there are a few quick food restaurants (Burger King, etc) very near by.

Regards Gary
 
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Okay guys, I think I am missing one or two email addresses to send the pictures from the graduation ceremony. If you have not received any pictures from em, please send me your email address and I will forward the pictures.

Once again, a big thanks to everyone that attended. It was a lot of fun and I learnt a lot!! Now can I remember it all!! That will be the challenge.. :rofl:

Gary
 

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Hi guys,

If ya'll don't mind, I'd love the hear the goods and bads of the class. I'm going to set one up in Austin, and need to decide between the guys ya'll used and the 'Expedition School' ...
 
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I thought the class was very well presented from a riders perspective.. It was lead by a trauma nurse who was also a rider, so that is where it comes from.. It also teaches accident scene management, and what to do until help arrives.. It does go into more than just basic first aid. It also teaches how to use teamwork to manage a scene as well as if you are alone. It also goes into stuff unique to motorcycles like when and how to properly remove a helmet. Not really any minuses except having to drive 60 miles across the metromess each way..
Thanks again to Gary for setting this up and supplying the place..
 
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As stated our trainer Michelle is an air vac trauma nurse who has seen more than her fair share of motorcycle accidents and injuries, she has a passion for riding motorcycles and that is where her motivation comes from to provide this training. She is clearly very experienced in medical trauma treatment, but despite some of the cold facts (dealing with dead bodies, etc) she did an excellent job at communicating the importance of each step, the reason why it is performed in a specific order and keeping it all upbeat and enjoyable. She presented a lot of information. I was a little dissapointed by the basic training as it was mainly watching videos, listening to Michelle talk and almost no practical hands-on, but lots of opportunity for questions. the second day (advanced) was much more interesting with lots of opportunity to practice what we had learnt in the Basic training and the new topics that where covered in the advanced training, she provided several medical dummies to practice on (CPR, splinting, etc).

There is only so much information you can absorb in 2 days and I thought the course struck a very good balance, you weren't left thinking you had wasted a lot of time, but you where also not left thinking there was so much information that you had already forgotten half of it by the end of the course. They have a few keyword acronyms that you learn and that really helps the information sink in and stick.. I thought it was a great use of my weekend, and whilst I hope to NEVER have to use the knowledge that we gained, I think it would be very valuable if I am aver involved in an accident scene. I highly recommend the training. Michelle also brought along another trauma EM (Called Chris) who also had a lot of knowledge and would explain things slightly different to Michelle and sometimes that would make it clearer, sometimes not, but they made for a good team and really wanted everyone to get the most out of the training..

I would highly recommend everyone do a course like this as it is so useful in the event you ever come across an accident scene.

Gary
 

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I thought the course was a great use of my weekend. I don’t have anything to compare it to, but felt like it struck a good balance between theory and practice (within the limits of what you can realistically practice in such a course.)

The instructors brought a lot of equipment and a lot of supplies that we could see and put to use. That helped a great deal. There were videos, lecture, exercises, and scenarios. I really don’t know what else they could have added. We were able to practice breathing and a limited form of CPR on dummies, which was really helpful for me.

I don’t have any negatives to report. The people were knowledgeable, practical and efficient. If I’m ever the accident victim I hope whoever is with me has had such a course.


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