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Northern California ride June 2018 (planning thread)

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Got a trip coming up this summer and thought I'd post up here to see if anybody had some must-see destinations or can't miss roads, etc..

JQ1.0 will be riding from the Graham area to San Francisco to meet up with myself and his other, less attractive son. He will be on a Nc700x, and the two of us will be renting bikes from Eaglerider (HD Road King and Heritage Softail). We leave San Fran on June 7th.

We are planning to go North from San Fran up the Pacific Coast Highway, run through the avenue of the giants to see the giant sequoias, and on up to Mckinleyville. Then we'll make our way over to near Weed, and North into Oregon. We'll hit Crater Lake and then head back to the coast to see Thor's Well. After that up to Portland area, and then we head South again.

JQ1.0 will split off around this time to head back to TX, while my charismatically challenged sibling and I make our way back to San Francisco. I have a route mapped but no real destinations or plans for that portion. Return the bikes on the 13th and fly back home.

So, anybody got tips and tricks for the area, or suggestions for a well travelled (I mean experienced) rider on a trip from TX to CA and back? I'd do the same except he's a lot more retired than I am, which seems to come with nearly unlimited days off.


We are all pretty accomplished dirt bike riders and fairly comfortable on the street as well (this ride is expected to be all pavement). On dual sport trips we tend to run 200-300 mile days, but we don't normally do long pavement trips.. I'm guessing 250-400 miles per day will be comfortable. We may even go on into Washington if we are way ahead of schedule.

We aren't really tied to any particular parts of the plan except for the Pacific Coast highway, Avenue of the Giants, and Crater Lake. We generally like the curvy roads with lots of elevation changes, etc, but it's 7 days of riding so we'll probably see some interstate and mile-munching roads as well.

The tentative route should be viewable here:
San Fransisco 2000 mile loop DISTANCE: 2151.6 mi. TIME: 47:54:58 https://a.rever.co/embed/rides/777945



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Sounds like a great trip and a great time.

I would recommend you not loan a bike to this JQ1.0 fella and I would look into one of those training wheel kits for his Honda.


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...suggestions for a well travelled (I mean experienced) rider on a trip from TX to CA and back?
I rode from east Texas up to San Francisco, and down the PCH to L.A. and then back to Texas a few times.

My suggestion is to trailer to the Pacific. That way you avoid arriving in the Bay area sunburned and road-weary, which will significantly detract from your enjoyment of that unique landscape, especially the slippery moist forest roads.

Arrive fresh and receive maximum enjoyment of the money it costs to be there.

Second: It will be colder than you think it will. Bring more cold-weather gear than you think you will need. Mail it home if you really don't need it.
 

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I would recommend you not loan a bike to this JQ1.0 fella and I would look into one of those training wheel kits for his Honda.


:duck:

I have recently joined a " Do Not Ride Other Peoples Bikes (DNROPB) " support group. We meet twice a week at Starbucks, the one next to the Hospital, for Lattes ( my favorite is swiss mocha ). One mantra of the group is " Stay Away From Enablers" (SAFE). I have been clean for about 3 1/2 weeks.
 

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I rode from east Texas up to San Francisco, and down the PCH to L.A. and then back to Texas a few times.

My suggestion is to trailer to the Pacific. That way you avoid arriving in the Bay area sunburned and road-weary, which will significantly detract from your enjoyment of that unique landscape, especially the slippery moist forest roads.

Arrive fresh and receive maximum enjoyment of the money it costs to be there.

Second: It will be colder than you think it will. Bring more cold-weather gear than you think you will need. Mail it home if you really don't need it.
I think he's planning to get there two days before we arrive so he's got a free day to rest. Thanks for the tip about cold. We are planning on low to mid 40's in the morning and 60's midday, so we will have layers with us on the bike to cover a little lower than that range.

Also we normally do dual sports in the same temp range, so hopefully having a big windshield on all the bikes will help as well (but speeds/wind are likely to be a bit higher).

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I have recently joined a " Do Not Ride Other Peoples Bikes (DNROPB) " support group. We meet twice a week at Starbucks, the one next to the Hospital, for Lattes ( my favorite is swiss mocha ). One mantra of the group is " Stay Away From Enablers" (SAFE). I have been clean for about 3 1/2 weeks.
That’s funny.

James, 3 1/2 weeks is not very long. Besides, that eye injury helped keep you clean for most of that time. Ha ha

I’ll contact a friend in Oregon- see if he has any suggestions.

Y’all have a great trip.
 

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Contact cheez a TWT member who lives there now. He might be able to help.

Yeah, we thought he might see this thread and chime in. I also remember seeing a post from Texas T (IIRC), on a ride through Arizona, into Utah? I may try to route back through southern Idaho, Wyoming. Still very much in the planning stage right now. I have a few places I'd like to see but trying to be realistic about tying them all together.
 
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Good luck on the journey James! I adamantly advise routing thru Utah if possible. Lynn and I rode out to CA, and went thru there then dropped into AZ in summer of 2016. This area was the highlight of our trip for sure. That state seems to have wall to wall great scenery and riding! Fair warning; You are going to wish you had your dual sport bike with you when you ride thru. It is on our short list for another much longer visit.
 

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I agree with Donny. Silverbullet and I rode back from Utah when I flew to Vegas to buy my Tenere. We rode through Zion National Park and also rode the Burr Trail. All I can think about is when am I going to get back out there.
 

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I agree with Donny. Silverbullet and I rode back from Utah when I flew to Vegas to buy my Tenere. We rode through Zion National Park and also rode the Burr Trail. All I can think about is when am I going to get back out there.
So did ya'll take the Ferry from Bullfrog Marina to Halls Crossing and 276 to 191
 
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Thanks for the heads up KP!

Couple of notes- since moving here I've been getting familiar with the area and riding a lot of the NoCal roads. If you're going up 1 and want to have a "more fun" experience, there are TONS of great roads between 1 and 101 that are fun riding.

Roads we like (my riding groups):
Skaggs Springs: https://goo.gl/7ZTpyQ
Boonville Ukiah: https://goo.gl/qAcPUq
Comptche Ukiah: https://goo.gl/Kb8yK1
CA36 (140mi no services, all twisties): https://goo.gl/Yjk1ts

If you're looking for more dirt type routes, here is a map from a yearly ride called "SheetIron 300" which is done by all levels of skill.

2017 (a/k/a the StraightIron):
https://goo.gl/dMgjPc

2016 (less straight):
https://goo.gl/gtoHzL

There's nowhere you can go up there (save the Central Valley, AVOID) that isn't good riding, at the very least scenic as heck. I'm getting rather spoiled. ;)

Ya'll have a fun trip! If you need a free lodging point in NoCal, I can put ya'll up for a night. I'm in Livermore (1hr east of SF City, 1hr southwest of Stockton.) We have 2 guest beds and two sofas.
 
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So did ya'll take the Ferry from Bullfrog Marina to Halls Crossing and 276 to 191
That was the plan but the ferry either wasn't working that day or we didn't wait long enough to ride it. We went back North. I remember riding a 191 I believe. If that's the road that goes over the Apache National forest .
 

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That was the plan but the ferry either wasn't working that day or we didn't wait long enough to ride it. We went back North. I remember riding a 191 I believe. If that's the road that goes over the Apache National forest .
North from the ferry 276 hits 95 which goes to Hanksville (Hole in the Rock Store)


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We also rode through Bryce NP and Grand Escalante. Maybe next time we can ride the ferry.

 
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North from the ferry 276 hits 95 which goes to Hanksville (Hole in the Rock Store)


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Went south instead on 95 through Fry Canyon. Very scenic views and a fun stretch of pavement. Needed to head south to ride the entire Coronado Trail. No way I could let JMZ miss that road on his first bike ride in the west.

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Thanks for the heads up KP!

Couple of notes- since moving here I've been getting familiar with the area and riding a lot of the NoCal roads. If you're going up 1 and want to have a "more fun" experience, there are TONS of great roads between 1 and 101 that are fun riding.

Roads we like (my riding groups):
Skaggs Springs: https://goo.gl/7ZTpyQ
Boonville Ukiah: https://goo.gl/qAcPUq
Comptche Ukiah: https://goo.gl/Kb8yK1
CA36 (140mi no services, all twisties): https://goo.gl/Yjk1ts

If you're looking for more dirt type routes, here is a map from a yearly ride called "SheetIron 300" which is done by all levels of skill.

2017 (a/k/a the StraightIron):
https://goo.gl/dMgjPc

2016 (less straight):
https://goo.gl/gtoHzL

There's nowhere you can go up there (save the Central Valley, AVOID) that isn't good riding, at the very least scenic as heck. I'm getting rather spoiled. ;)

Ya'll have a fun trip! If you need a free lodging point in NoCal, I can put ya'll up for a night. I'm in Livermore (1hr east of SF City, 1hr southwest of Stockton.) We have 2 guest beds and two sofas.
Thanks for the roads and info. Appreciate the lodging offer, but we will probably motel it to kinda decide on the fly. I'm sure we will include some of those in our route.
 
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We also rode through Bryce NP and Grand Escalante. Maybe next time we can ride the ferry.

The Map helps a lot. I am somewhat directionally challenged at times. The Utah DOT website reports the Ferry ro be down due to mechanical problems.
 

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Went south instead on 95 through Fry Canyon. Very scenic views and a fun stretch of pavement. Needed to head south to ride the entire Coronado Trail. No way I could let JMZ miss that road on his first bike ride in the west.

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That is a little south of where I was planning to cross NM, but hey plans may change. Looks to be entertaining.
 

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My friend says you can expect snow at Crater Lk in June.

He also said it would take him 2 weeks to do what you are planning out of SF. :shrug:
 

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My friend says you can expect snow at Crater Lk in June.

He also said it would take him 2 weeks to do what you are planning out of SF. :shrug:
Yeah... we've heard that kinda stuff before (but usually on dual sports).

2100 miles in 7 days seems pretty doable though.

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My wife and I moved to Waco from McKinleyville two years ago, so I know the area pretty well (she was there for 20 years, me, about two years). I've been up into Oregon the way you are speaking of, and it's a great ride. However, if you can take an extra day, go east on 299 from McKinleyville until you can go south on Forest Road 6, which you can eventually hook up with Forest Rd 1, which intersects with Hwy 36 and you can wind your way back over to 101. That ride will take much of the day, and it's magnificent. The forest roads are pretty much paved (barely in spots), but there's literally no traffic and the twisties and scenery are beyond awesome. Wind up the day with a walk in Arcata's Redwood Park. You will not find a more awesome display of giant Redwoods to walk among. (To my way of thinking, it's the best city park in America, and it's not small either.)
As to places to stay, there "ain't much". Arcata has the best places to eat in the area, and is a pretty little town with an old fashioned square. I would pretty much avoid staying in Eureka unless you need help with the bikes; no shortage of tweekers there; however old town Eureka is pretty neat. If you need mechanical assistance with the bikes, there's a terrific little repair shop called North Coast Cycle on 15th St in Eureka. Also, Pacific Motorsports on the south side of Eureka is ok, but I'd avoid the dealers unless you need warranty work.
Hope you have fun! We may be out that way later this year, but after the BMW rally in Des Moines we're thinking northern Montana and possible on up to Banff.
 

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Well 1st day Graham to Lordsville nm was rather windy and a touch warm. Today taking 191 to Alpine and then overnight in Winslow. Appreciate all the help with routing. Completely changed and added as much as possible.
 

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I hope y’all will continue to post commentary and pix. Maybe a new thread is in order?
Will start new thread after the ride. 191N is a great ride. The wind again was a bear but temp better. Flagstaff tonight north into utah tomorrow.

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I Am not very good so don't expect much.
Couldn't have said it better myself.. so google says 680 miles for the first day- what was your actual route mileage?

Also, did you use the tablet or phone for nav?

I think I'll have a computer when jmq2 and I get to San Fran, so you can write up some before it fades.

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I think I'll have a computer when jmq2 and I get to San Fran, so you can write up some before it fades.

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great idea! Even if you don't post while on road, just brief notes to myself, I've found, are very useful when recreating the journey later.
 

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I’ll be waiting impatiently for a report of the of the adventures. I always enjoy how the Queens roll.
 

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I Am not very good typing on this phone so don't expect much.
so you got the devil's highway in, pretty and awesome at the same time isnt it?

BTW, does that flip phone take pics you can post on the forum as you ride LOL.
 

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so you got the devil's highway in, pretty and awesome at the same time isnt it?

BTW, does that flip phone take pics you can post on the forum as you ride LOL.
Yeah did 191. I had to after the glowing recommendatipns from you, Aaron and SBullet. Today did Burr trail but i tied in from Blanding to Halls Crossing and took the ferry across lake Powell to Bullfrog. Burr trail was rrcommended by JMZ and it is a hoot. Thru Bryce and overnighting in Panaguitch. Change of plans for tomorror. Saint Georgr to Rocky Mountain atv for some needed replacements. So going to loose 1 day to maint, but i had a fudge day figuired in already, so still should be N of San Francisco on the appointed date to ride out with the boys. I do have a phone i can take pichurs with but need a little guidance. And no the flip does not take pichurs. 0602180924.jpg 0531181346a.jpg

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great idea! Even if you don't post while on road, just brief notes to myself, I've found, are very useful when recreating the journey later.
I am attempting to keep some notes for a report........
Still don't expect too much, as I an not a wordsmith.


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Installed new chain this morn in the Days Inn parking lot, St George Utah. No sprockevts at Rocky Mountain or the Honda dealer, but they both still look pretty decent. Wind was worst of the trip so far. Routed thru Tonapah to Hawthorne for the night. Should be at our meetup in Novato, Ca tomorrow, so i'm back on schedule. Missed riding 50 across Nevada. Maybe next time.

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Trip begins.. On the way to DFW to see if they'll let me fly the plane.
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Apparently everybody's mom thinks they can do anything, and that doesn't qualify me to be a pilot...


Buncha crap if you ask me.

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Stopped to see my niece in Petaluma yesterday. Best part trip so far. Look on her face priceless. After went to Olema for egg salad sandwich. Where are you boys, lets go. Burning daylight.

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JQ2.0 and I arrived in San Francisco last night, Ubered to a Best Buy, and walked 1.5 miles to the hotel. Other than the large amounts of homeless and beggars, everything went well.

Got up at 5:45 AM California time because of the time change, and decided to walk the 3.5 miles to EagleRider to pick up the bikes. Got there about an hour early and just wandered around a bit until they opened. As our luck would have it, we got back to their door about 10 minutes before they opened, and there was a group of 6 in front of us.... So we were hoping to get there at 9 and leave by 10, we got there at 8:50 and left at 11:10. They did not have the Road King I had asked for, so I ended up with a Road Glide (you can pay a little extra to ensure that you get the exact model you requested - I didn't, so they could substitute any other bike in the same class).

We mt up with JQ1.0 about 35 miles north of EagleRider in Olema, California. It only took us about an hour and a half to cover those 35 miles, so we got there about 12:45, ate a sandwich and hit the road. Didn't have a lot of time to stop and look around because of the late start and low speed limits for like 45 miles coming out of San Fran. We did stop at a beach overlook for some pics, but other than that it was highway 1 (Pacific Coast Highway) all the way to Garberville, and got to the hotel at 7pm. So we covered our first 250 miles with a 3-4 hour late start and a ridiculously slow first 50 miles or so. Hopefully this bodes well for averaging 350 or so miles per day if we start around 8am and don't go through any major metro areas.

Pacific Coast Highway is beautiful and has wonderful curves, but it does go through a lot of little towns in the beginning, so it's not for high speed sporty runs in my opinion. But totally worth it and there are several 20 mile stretches of curves, and we just barely got into some of the big (not giant) sequoias in the last 20 miles or so.

Tomorrow is the Avenue of the Giants, more of the Pacific Coast highway, then we cut inland on 299 to Weaverville, and up to Ashland - should be 320 miles or so by the time we get to Ashland. Will have pics tomorrow.
 
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