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This thread is dedicated to rides in Sam Houston National Forest. Pop in here to see if anybody is planning on riding in the near future, or to ask if somebody wants to go with you.

For those that don't know, a short description of SHNF:

The multi use trails at Sam Houston National Forest are open to motorcycles and atv's. They are heavily wooded, and while the trails are wide enough that a 4-wheeler will fit, they are still fairly technical, with lots of whoops and sand. If there has been some rain, then the traction is much improved, and the mud is not too slick. If you are a beginner, you will find it difficult to carry much speed - the trails are also much easier on a smaller trail bike. If it rains too much, they will be closed. You should always call before you haul, the number is (936) 344 6205.

Requirements to Ride:
  • Helmet and eye protection is required.
  • You must have an $16.00 sticker for your bike, it's good from August to August, and is required for most government owned riding areas. Get the sticker at Cycle Shack North in Conroe, or check with other motorcycle/atv dealers near Conroe/New Waverly. They do not have the stickers at the park proper :brainsnap
  • In addition to the sticker, each rider must pay a $5 fee in a dropbox or have an annual pass for OHV access to the trails So the first time will run you $23 (per rider), but for the rest of the year it's $5 per day (per rider). Or you can pay for the $25 annual pass, making your first time $48, and the rest of the year is free!
  • Your bike must have a spark arrestor.
  • You do not need a license plate, but it can be convenient, as there are some park roads that will let you shortcut back to your vehicle, but they are roads and so require plates.
There are two separate sections of trail, the east side and the west side. Both sides have multiple trails, so it is not quite right to call them "loops". There are about 40 miles of trail on each side, and it is very easy to get so far away from the trailhead that it would take a LONG time to get back, so please try to ride with a friend. The east side only has one parking spot, and seems to be less popular. I don't know if it is more/less technical, or if it is just because the trailhead/parking spot is farther from the road and takes a while to get to. The west side has multiple trailheads/parking spots. One of the popular ones is Kelly's Pond.

Directions to trailheads:
(All directions start from New Waverly, Texas):

East Side Trailhead (233)
: From I-45 follow FM 1375 west for 4 miles, turn north onto FS Road 233 and follow 2.5 miles.

West Side Trailhead (208)
: Follow FM 1375 west approximately 10 miles, turn north onto FS Road 208, continue 1.4 miles to trailhead.

Kelly Pond Trailhead
: From I-45 follow FM 1375 west approximately 10 miles, turn south on FS Road 204 for 1 mile, and turn west on FS Road 271 for 1.5 miles.

Northwest Trailhead: From I-45 follow FM 1375 west approximately 14 miles, turn right onto FM 149 and follow approximately 1.5 miles, turn north onto FM 1791, and follow 4 miles to intersection with FS Road 208 to trailhead.


Trail Maps:Maps should be available at the national forest website.

Also, these should be relatively current maps including trail names (updated 10-28-2014):

View attachment 32307

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GPS files are available at Everytrail.com. Search for SHNF and you should see two uploads from jqueen.

See you there!
 
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So - trails are still open as of Friday 12/16. I know the forecast was for lots of rain, but I haven't seen any in Sugar Land - anybody know if New Waverly is expecting a lot of water tonight/tomorrow?

I pretty much gave up on a Saturday ride due to the forecast, but now it looks like the forecast was wrong, so as long as they're open Saturday morning, I'm up for it!

Edit to add.. broke my own suggestion - of course I mean Saturday the 17th (tomorrow).
 
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Great idea. I'm planning on "getting sick" some time after the new year and riding out there.
 

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So the trails are open today and only slight chances of rain the rest of the day and tomorrow. Who wants to ride tomorrow? (Sat the 17th)
 
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I am up for it if the Zars ride falls through. I won't find out until late tonight or early tomorrow which direction I am going though.
 

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So the trails are open today and only slight chances of rain the rest of the day and tomorrow. Who wants to ride tomorrow? (Sat the 17th)
I'm in, if the forrest is open 12/17. Kelly's Pond, say 9ish?
 

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It's about 2 hours for me as well, but I prefer to get there early so I don't anger the wife and kids by being gone through dinner! One or two more and we'll have the perfect size group!
 
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You guys are killing me :lol2: we're going out of town to visit family for Christmas
 

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Where exactly are yall meeting? I am unfamiliar with the riding area
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Beaumont,+TX&daddr=30.3198005,-95.1725918+to:Kellys+Pond+Rd&hl=en&ll=30.39183,-94.754333&spn=1.520973,3.172302&sll=30.513618,-95.643325&sspn=0.023736,0.049567&geocode=Fa78ygEdJL5j-imdsY89GMs-hjEdzVrcPpyu_Q;FbikzgEdEchT-ikRTBFakFtHhjHzOhfmDK64lg;FamN0QEd2E1M-g&vpsrc=6&gl=us&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=15&t=m&z=9&via=1

When you get to 45, you could go south to the Gladstell exit for an OHV sticker at Cycle Shack. Also if you can't make the 9ish start time, just post up appx time you'll be there and we could try to be back at the trail-head to meet up.
Remember, call first to be sure the trails are still open.
 

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The call # is 936 344 6205. Option # 2, but you have to let the recording run for a few secs before it lets you push the #.
 

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first post updated with general information, directions to all trailheads, link to national forest site for maps, and instructions for finding GPS tracks.
 
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http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Beaumont,+TX&daddr=30.3198005,-95.1725918+to:Kellys+Pond+Rd&hl=en&ll=30.39183,-94.754333&spn=1.520973,3.172302&sll=30.513618,-95.643325&sspn=0.023736,0.049567&geocode=Fa78ygEdJL5j-imdsY89GMs-hjEdzVrcPpyu_Q;FbikzgEdEchT-ikRTBFakFtHhjHzOhfmDK64lg;FamN0QEd2E1M-g&vpsrc=6&gl=us&mra=mift&mrsp=1&sz=15&t=m&z=9&via=1

When you get to 45, you could go south to the Gladstell exit for an OHV sticker at Cycle Shack. Also if you can't make the 9ish start time, just post up appx time you'll be there and we could try to be back at the trail-head to meet up.
Remember, call first to be sure the trails are still open.
I got a sticker at Cowboy Honda in Beaumont. There is a link on the forest service website. Ill call before i load up which will roughly be 6 :30 am.
 
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I'm not going to make it this time. Looks like Zars didn't get much rain so I am heading to Floresville tomorrow morning. I hope to catch SHNF in the next 2 weeks.
 
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just more FYI on SHNF. the sticker is $10 up from $8 last year. i've rarely seen the tree cops except on the weekends but you do have to have a spark arrestor installed. its is a fine if they catch you without one. watch your speed on roads in the area as well and pay attention, the locals think they are the duke boys and fly around blind corners. that goes for road crossings on the trails as well. i almost lost my front wheel and i was stopped waiting for the idiot to go by at around 70, he almost clipped me. it also pays dividends to be a trail steward, stay on trail, pack it out and try not to rut out every mud hole. if you want to be super awesome take a chainsaw with ya and cut out all the trees across the trails. :clap:
 
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It's $16 for the sticker, they doubled in price. And stay off the roads unless you have a plate
 

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If I don't get paged for work, I will try to be at Kelly's Pond 9ish.

Sticker was $16. I just bought one at Cycle Shack a few weeks ago. They are good August through August. So if you buy one in July, it is still $16 and still only good until August... :doh:
 
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my bad, i'm a little slow, silver bullet picked a bunch up for our riding group and i bought 4, i don't remember what i paid him but it seems like a lot now. :lol2: oh and if you find one on the west side trails, its mine. it fell off of my klx a couple of weeks ago. :trust:
 

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Trails open as of 6:15. Updated first post on sticker price and spark arrestor.
 
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Ive been sick eith sinus stuff all weel. Amd once again i goy no sleep last night. Im hoping i will feel better and am gonna try to get some additional rest. I will ipdate when i head that way but may not ne til later now.
 
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I'm in. Loaded up and headed that way. I'm stopping for a sticker so eta is 9:30 or so. Don't wait for me.
 
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my son and I are going tomorrow Sun Dec 18th but be there at noon Kellys Pond
 

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my son and I are going tomorrow Sun Dec 18th but be there at noon Kellys Pond
My son had to work today and really wants to ride, so we'll probably be at Kelly's Pond also. May see you there...
 
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I will be riding the east side south loop tomorrow ( 12/18/11 ) at 7.

If y'all are going to be a kellys pond around noon then I think I will come on over to the west side after I get a loop or two in.
I have never ridden the west side and tomorrow is going to be a Great day.
 

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so how was the riding?
:tab I could have done without the branch up my nose... literally :huh2: Not sure how it got past the helmet and goggles, but I had visions of it going all the way up to my brain... Talk about whacked way to get whacked... :giveup:

:tab I hurt all over... a lot...Thank God for better living through chemistry! :mrgreen: Some ibuprofen, a muscle relaxer and I'm sorta able to walk around the house without making noises that scare the kids :doh:

:tab I could go a LONG time without seeing TONS of close spaced whoops... Those things were just wearing me down hard. My neck and shoulders are screaming at me over that stuff.

:tab Can't wait to get the 13/52 sprockets on the bike. I was rapping out first but second was just TOO fast for me and I would end up really lugging it. All in all, for my first time really riding single track trails, I'm pretty happy. Five minutes after Roger mentioned that you could probably clip a tree with the bar and be fine but if you hit it square on the hand guard you are probably gonna go down... I hit a tree right square on the hand guard and went down, hehe. Jqueen got the bike off me because I couldn't stop laughing. Thank God for good dirt boots though because the toes on the left foot were pointed into the ground and the heel took the full weight of the bike. I had another real slow get off, more of a tip over and I just stepped off, but the bike hit a tree perfectly right over the front fender and at the base of the head light. No damage though. I just picked it up and kept going. I was good for the first loop, but about half way through that second loop I was out of steam and getting really sloppy. It was frustrating watching Roger because he is just so smooth and I was back there flopping all over the place and working way harder than I should have been, hehe.

:tab The fall colors are some of the best I can remember in 17 years of living in this area. The Sweet Gum trees are bright yellow and red! Even the Oaks are a beautiful fiery orange.

:tab Did I mention I hurt all over... :giveup:
 

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Here's a few pics...

Heading from Stubble Field Lake to Kelly's Pond


At the trail head


JQueen's DR 650, that he rides like a 250 :cool2:


I froze to death riding down this morning, but it got hot on the trails FAST, so we stopped so I could shed some layers and wait for my heart rate to come back down out of the stratosphere... :twitch:(Justin on left, Roger on right)


Roger's weapon of choice, 350 SX?


This I liked... wide and no whoops, and the trees are further away than two inches! I'm still a bit wigged about trees being so close to me as I go careening through the woods...


Justin and the DR 650


A trail head... somewhere... I had no clue as I was just trying to keep up!


Another view of Roger's ride


The DR


We picked up Jamie at the trail head for the second loop, he missed the first loop - KTM 450 EXC


Sand I like... It makes for a soft landing :mrgreen:


Taking a break on the second loop


Heading home toward Stubble Field Lake
 
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I'm glad you finally got to taste the trails out there. And yeah those whoops will wear you out fast. Tomorrow (well later today :doh:) will be even worse :lol2:

I need to get out there soon. I'll probably end up calling in sick one day next month just to get a fix
 
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Nice ride report and great pics Scott. I would have loved to join you but I was busy trying to chop down trees with my shoulder at Zars with Carl. :eek2:
 
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we had a great ride, saw Roger and son

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video did not turn out well, will try to get something
 
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have to go back for some better video :-P

[ame="http://youtu.be/xsMjUaVC8a4"]SHNF Dec 18, 2011 - YouTube[/ame]
 
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The black Yaris with a trailer in the eighth foto is mine. I was doing the North Loop. Took me 4 hours. How long should it take for a good rider?
 
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Nice report Tourmeister. Those whoops are famous with riders from many states. The Natl and state enduros have introduced them to riders from afar who always mention them afterwards. Relentless. And anyone riding those trails with true dualsport tires like that Suzy 650 has is to be congratulated. And about Rsquared, the young man just seems to float above it all, so smooth then he just disappears at will. Great to see y'all had a good time.
 

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The black Yaris with a trailer in the eighth foto is mine. I was doing the North Loop. Took me 4 hours. How long should it take for a good rider?
:tab Dang, I wish I had known so we could have hooked up with you. Maybe next time. As for how long... well... I can't help you there, you'll have to get that from a "good" rider ;-)

And about Rsquared, the young man just seems to float above it all, so smooth then he just disappears at will.
:tab Yeah, that was my impression too :lol2: Fortunately he is really good about stopping and waiting so I never got lost :thumb:
 
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I could go a LONG time without seeing TONS of close spaced whoops... Those things were just wearing me down hard. My neck and shoulders are screaming at me over that stuff.
I know the feeling. Back in the spring, I went out there with Budzrex and rode Thursday afternoon until Sunday morning. Three solid days of riding. I was definitely "whooped" out. Being a rookie to the dirt, they absolutely wore me out. My wr was a beast, I can't imaging taking a 650 out there. :hail: Next month I'll take a cr250r out and see how it does. :;-)
 
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A friendly tip, get some grip donuts. When I went, I got some killer blisters in my hands. Jus' saying....


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