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The Roads of Texas, which is best?

StromXTc

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I have this one https://www.amazon.com/dp/0940672642/?tag=twowhetex-20
I notice it is latest copyright of 1995. There doesn't seem to be a later version

Then there's this one , Mapsco

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00JPJHP46/?tag=twowhetex-20

Just wondering if the Mapsco is much better than the original roads o.t. , or maybe is based on the original? I see where the mapsco version is dated back to 2014

I guess Mapsco bought the rights so it's the same?? Hard to tell, can't see any page pictures on these Amazon sites (Amazon once was just a book seller believe it or not)
 

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Where's our Tie Dyed seller of maps?

Hint: Butler Maps
Presently unaccounted for....

The older versions like 1995 & mabe 2005 had the best artwork...easier ta read in my opinion. The 2008 version I just bought does show more roads than before ...& the road info is more readable.... but...the artwork elevations & such suffers a bit
Still better than the newer spiral bound versions...I think.

Mapsco had already bought Shearer by 2008 & was making those updates that I mentioned. When the next version came out..it was spiral bound & even more cluttered in artwork & labeling. Still far far better than DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer tho

& the older stapled versions are gettn harder ta find....
Several years ago I bought an extra 1995 version for $7-10 in good condition...bunches of em out there.
The 2008 I just bought cost me $25 used on fleabay in good cond.... But I saw other stapled versions used & new for $50-150! NUTS

Guess I needta start copyin pages again...keep the atlas at home & in good shape...instead of on the bike

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Presently unaccounted for....

The older versions like 1995 & mabe 2005 had the best artwork...easier ta read in my opinion. The 2009 version I just bought does show more roads than before ...& the road info is more readable.... but...the artwork elevations & such suffers a bit
Still better than the newer spiral bound versions...I think.

Mapsco had already bought Shearer by 2009 & was making those updates that I mentioned. When the next version came out..it was spiral bound & even more cluttered in artwork & labeling. Still far far better than DeLorme Atlas & Gazetteer tho

& the older stapled versions are gettn harder ta find....
Several years ago I bought an extra 1995 version for $7-10 in good condition...bunches of em out there.
The 2009 I just bought cost me $25 used on fleabay in good cond.... But I saw other stapled versions used & new for $50-150! NUTS

Guess I needta start copyin pages again...keep the atlas at home & in good shape...instead of on the bike

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Thanks, I guess I have the good one from 95' (stapled as you say) . My dad used to keep it handy to go find rigs when they wanted quick geophysical interpretation. I saved it and covered the front and back pages with that clear packing tape to help protect it. Really is best thing out there, albeit out dated.
 

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Thanks, I guess I have the good one from 95' (stapled as you say) . My dad used to keep it handy to go find rigs when they wanted quick geophysical interpretation. I saved it and covered the front and back pages with that clear packing tape to help protect it. Really is best thing out there, albeit out dated.
Id like ta look at a 2005 version to see if its the same as 95 or 99 mostly

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Went to check my others and found full and half size '05/'08, plus one without cover, from before them but after the oldest.
Ahhhh.... My cover is the same 1999 so the separate bound pages must also be the 99 with the red printing. My older one which I lost mustve been the 95...without county road labelling. Is the artwork on your 05 the same as the 99? ..or like the 08..with a bunch more county roads shown....paved with a thin solid line...unpaved a wider hash line. But lacking the light yellow background & busier overall in detail.

Some of the indicated paved roads on my 08 Roads Of Tx...are actually gravel now. But I do kno that at least a few were paved previously cuz I usta ride them. The CR numbers are also still not updated in Lampasas County...2 digits instead of the current 4

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Ahhhh.... My cover is the same 1999 so the separate bound pages must also be the 99 with the red printing. My older one which I lost mustve been the 95...without county road labelling. Is the artwork on your 05 the same as the 99? ..or like the 08..with a bunch more county roads shown....paved with a thin solid line...unpaved a wider hash line. But lacking the light yellow background & busier overall in detail.

Some of the indicated paved roads on my 08 Roads Of Tx...are actually gravel now. But I do kno that at least a few were paved previously cuz I usta ride them. The CR numbers are also still not updated in Lampasas County...2 digits instead of the current 4

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In chronological order the last having 4 number roads in Lampasas



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In chronological order the last having 4 number roads in Lampasas



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Huh??! None of mine are spiral bound....even the 08.
Mabe Mapsco offered both at the same time...or switched bind during ???

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05 the major highways are bold black lines

Aaron
So.... Im thinkin....the 99 has old style Shearer Publishing artwork which is nice & easy to see... But very small red labels on county roads. (Keep in mind that Ive highlighted some CRs with blue on this one)
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The 05-08 versions have different artwork...more county roads & bigger labels... But slightly busy
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The newest versions have even busier artwork (I think)... more info...yes...but harder to read. Possibly bought from Mapsco by Universal Map or another company

Here is the 99 & 08 side by side. Not a lot of difference...but 99 is still more readable to me.
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I have noticed the early wire bound issue looks like it went to press without being proofread , on most pages there will be a county with areas that don't have any county roads numbered . Also the contrast on the old stapled version seemed to be much easier on old eyes . We won't even get started on the delorme maps .
 

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I have noticed the early wire bound issue looks like it went to press without being proofread , on most pages there will be a county with areas that don't have any county roads numbered . Also the contrast on the old stapled version seemed to be much easier on old eyes . We won't even get started on the delorme maps .
Hazards of gettn bought up by a large corporate.... ( dunno...Not my job)

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Well... you know what they say, opinions are like...

I'm thinking I like the white page style. I have squinted over those yellow pages a while , later editions looks refreshing to me

Thanks everyone for all the excellent information. :thumb:
 

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In all this talk of maps...I have wondered before why no one here has mentioned Key Maps.

I thought Key Maps had gone the way of the dodo. A quick google later..., still alive and kicking, I just never realized they are limited to SE Texas: Harris, Montgomery, Waller and liberty counties.

We (fedex couriers) used them extensively. Indispensable for rural routes. I'm sure they are still used today.

They are incredibly detailed, include all roads and tracks and features like oil wells and windmills. Roads of Texas got nothing on a KeyMap.

Too bad they don't map the entire state!
 

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In all this talk of maps...I have wondered before why no one here has mentioned Key Maps.

I thought Key Maps had gone the way of the dodo. A quick google later..., still alive and kicking, I just never realized they are limited to SE Texas: Harris, Montgomery, Waller and liberty counties.

We (fedex couriers) used them extensively. Indispensable for rural routes. I'm sure they are still used today.

They are incredibly detailed, include all roads and tracks and features like oil wells and windmills. Roads of Texas got nothing on a KeyMap.

Too bad they don't map the entire state!
Ive seen those before Gina...& yes...yes they are very detailed.... I thought they were extinct too....definately wish they had more coverage

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Hadnt thought about those key maps, yes they were th only good thing for navigating houston back in the 90's back when we had to use our brain and remember places. Now it's, "ok google, navigate to ..." will be in big trouble once skynet assumes control.
 

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Theres a new Sheriff in town......
Benchmark now offers a Texas Road & Recreation Atlas.... Nice!
Similar to the Roads O Texas...mabe not quite as big a scale...but good road markings.
These folks make several other atlases for most western states.... & are the same type artwork used by Butler maps & Nat Geographic
 

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T Cat....I have one of those ...uh...less detailed ROT versions....theyre ok....but ..if you want the good stuff ...labelled...you'll do better buying the full size Roads Of Tx or the new Benchmark Road & Rec Atlas
 
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On topic, does anyone subscribe to ride Texas? Have been considering it.
I have for several years - they used to publish 6 times a year when I first subscribed, but a few years ago they went to 4 time per year schedule.

I still think its a good read - but feel it was better before being bought out by Texas Monthly organization - I would suggest picking up a copies for a while from local newsstands before deciding on subscribing.

Another mag to check out is RoadRunner it has a focus on touring across the US & international.
 
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T Cat....I have one of those ...uh...less detailed ROT versions....theyre ok....but ..if you want the good stuff ...labelled...you'll do better buying the full size Roads Of Tx or the new Benchmark Road & Rec Atlas
I have all of the bigger more detailed versions (Roads of Texas, Texas Atlas & Gazetteer, etc) that I use at the house for general planning - but they are a bit cumbersome to take on the bike.
 

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R O T was available in a still well detailed smaller version...at least for a while after Mapsco bought the publishing rights. Dont kno if its still avail or not. I knew several folks who had them.
I keep one of those less detailed ROTs in my car to use in rerouting to bypass traffic situations & finding shortcuts...
But...on the bike....its the full size ROT for me....( I copy pages to use frequently in the mapcase...book for backup in my luggage)
 

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Got my Benchmark Tx Rd & Rec Atlas on Friday.... (Shipping was slooooow)
But its nice to have anuther alternative in maps
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Especially so since the folks at Butler Maps have turned their backs on the idea that Texas could use another map for Texas...a Northern Hill Country map. Not to mention that they could also do an East Texas in the Trees map.
 
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