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I meant that you beat your buddy George, but yeah, all that stuff is good too.,, your kids are killin' it!
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I'll do my writeup, but really not a lot more to add that's important than my preview bit.
So yeah, had a great start, surprised myself and then had no idea how to keep that ball rolling. The dust from just the one guy ahead of me slowed me down just a bit in those first few turns that I quickly lost touch. Then the eventual winner squeaking past when I took the wider line in that left hander... and that was about it for 'in-class' action for me.
I caught a few guys in the class(es) that started ahead of me, which was good practice. Those were the first times that I ever remembered to call out 'different class!' when trying to pass.
I was mostly focusing on trying to keep speed up and coast less than I normally do.
I think I kept the gap to 2nd and ahead of 4th pretty consistent. I could see 2nd place a section or so ahead of me (very yellow wheels, easy to spot) on that moto portion before timing and scoring. As well, I could see the guy who I believe was 4th behind me at about the same distance.
I blew like three or four corners in a row right after I got passed... trying to catch back up... mistakes like that just eat me up.
This kind of dirt suits me I think. The opposite of deep sand.. lol
Here's video of my 1st lap and some of 2nd.
So yeah, had a great start, surprised myself and then had no idea how to keep that ball rolling. The dust from just the one guy ahead of me slowed me down just a bit in those first few turns that I quickly lost touch. Then the eventual winner squeaking past when I took the wider line in that left hander... and that was about it for 'in-class' action for me.
I caught a few guys in the class(es) that started ahead of me, which was good practice. Those were the first times that I ever remembered to call out 'different class!' when trying to pass.
I was mostly focusing on trying to keep speed up and coast less than I normally do.
I think I kept the gap to 2nd and ahead of 4th pretty consistent. I could see 2nd place a section or so ahead of me (very yellow wheels, easy to spot) on that moto portion before timing and scoring. As well, I could see the guy who I believe was 4th behind me at about the same distance.
I blew like three or four corners in a row right after I got passed... trying to catch back up... mistakes like that just eat me up.
This kind of dirt suits me I think. The opposite of deep sand.. lol
Here's video of my 1st lap and some of 2nd.
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Enjoyed the video. Trail looked excellent and your riding was fast and smooth, you earned your position. 
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Note no Friday practice
Hmm.. interesting. I wonder why no practice? Not that I could go anyway, but seems they've had it at every round. Maybe land owner is concerned about extra wear/tear?
Or, trying to leave whatever moisture is in the ground in place for the races.
Or, trying to leave whatever moisture is in the ground in place for the races.
Side-note: was thinking about this the other day... the races start at a given time... and go row-by-row some time apart... 30sec or a minute or two?... whatever it is.
The checkered flag comes out at a specific time relative to the 1st row start. Does that not then sort of 'short' the other rows of that time-delta between each row's start vs the 1st row?
I was looking for 'the math' to figure out how close I was to missing the cut-off to do a 4th lap... I know I had to be close.. race is supposed to be like 70-min and my total time was 1:09:change... so I'd have figured I was 'under the limit' to get a 4th lap started before checkers, but nope.
It's fine, not that tore up about it b/c everyone in a given class 'hits the checkered' at the same time.. just that I think the later-starting classes don't get all the minutes. What am I missing if I'm wrong here?
It is certainly acceptable that the answer here is "if you want the extra minutes, get better and move up a class to get an earlier start time" ... this would be one incentive to actually get better and move up... i.e, your reward would be more likely to get that extra lap/trail-riding-time.
I wouldn't expect anyone to implement this b/c its probably more complicated than I'm thinking in some non-obvious way right now, but 'a solution' would be to have a 'digital checkered flag' that updates when the rider hits the timing gate... i.e, you'd see a 'finished' sign if your time across the line was outside of the race-time limit... or you'd see either nothing or 'keep going' or whatever.
The logic is relatively simple I think.. quick napkin-coding here... probably some bug in there, no promises.. lol
1) read rider transponder to get rider-time (this already happens)
fail-check: if couldn't read rider-transponder, default to race-start-time + race-length as cut-off time below //hand-scored, tell rider later to fix his transponder.. its on him .. this already happens I believe
2) check rider class (this already happens)
3) adjust rider's finish time target by class-start delta (this would be just a schedule set in a table.. '30-sec between rows, rider-class is on row [x]'... x is a 0-based index
3a) start-delta-time = 30sec * rider-class-row //account for time 'lost' waiting for actual class start
3b) class-finish-time = race-start-time + start-delta-time + race-length-time //70min, whatever, the existing system knows this value already
4) if rider-time < class-finish-time
show 'keep going'
else
show 'finished'
The checkered flag comes out at a specific time relative to the 1st row start. Does that not then sort of 'short' the other rows of that time-delta between each row's start vs the 1st row?
I was looking for 'the math' to figure out how close I was to missing the cut-off to do a 4th lap... I know I had to be close.. race is supposed to be like 70-min and my total time was 1:09:change... so I'd have figured I was 'under the limit' to get a 4th lap started before checkers, but nope.
It's fine, not that tore up about it b/c everyone in a given class 'hits the checkered' at the same time.. just that I think the later-starting classes don't get all the minutes. What am I missing if I'm wrong here?
It is certainly acceptable that the answer here is "if you want the extra minutes, get better and move up a class to get an earlier start time" ... this would be one incentive to actually get better and move up... i.e, your reward would be more likely to get that extra lap/trail-riding-time.
I wouldn't expect anyone to implement this b/c its probably more complicated than I'm thinking in some non-obvious way right now, but 'a solution' would be to have a 'digital checkered flag' that updates when the rider hits the timing gate... i.e, you'd see a 'finished' sign if your time across the line was outside of the race-time limit... or you'd see either nothing or 'keep going' or whatever.
The logic is relatively simple I think.. quick napkin-coding here... probably some bug in there, no promises.. lol
1) read rider transponder to get rider-time (this already happens)
fail-check: if couldn't read rider-transponder, default to race-start-time + race-length as cut-off time below //hand-scored, tell rider later to fix his transponder.. its on him .. this already happens I believe
2) check rider class (this already happens)
3) adjust rider's finish time target by class-start delta (this would be just a schedule set in a table.. '30-sec between rows, rider-class is on row [x]'... x is a 0-based index
3a) start-delta-time = 30sec * rider-class-row //account for time 'lost' waiting for actual class start
3b) class-finish-time = race-start-time + start-delta-time + race-length-time //70min, whatever, the existing system knows this value already
4) if rider-time < class-finish-time
show 'keep going'
else
show 'finished'
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Didn't read your math but you're correct, 70 minute clock starts with front row. In my case we start almost 10 minutes later.
Who's going to Goertz? I signed up today. I went to this race last year, but had to head home before it started due to some pressing extended family issues that cropped up that morning. I've done a sprint-enduro there, so I have seen some of this property, hoping I recognize some of it at least. I ride better when I have an idea of what's coming around the corner, or over some hill.
I have trust issues, lol.... I know the course folks wouldn't tend to do anything too crazy 'out of rider sight', but I can't get over that base fear in my lizard brain-stem.
I have trust issues, lol.... I know the course folks wouldn't tend to do anything too crazy 'out of rider sight', but I can't get over that base fear in my lizard brain-stem.
Luke and I are in for Sunday. Can’t go Saturday cuz daughter is performing that day.
I might sign up for a much younger class just so I can get more laps in. 50c leaves the line at least 6 minutes after the 70 minutes start to count down, so I’ll resign myself to getting whooped in order to gain seat time.
Ack, ok... if you -must- attend the daughter's 'thing' instead of doing something fun like racing dirtbikes!...
kidding, kidding... important to do the things with the kiddos
lol.. its funny, I've figured if I ever run on Sunday, I'd try 40c b/c the guys in 50c seem faster on average, but I can't say I've checked it closely this year..
Tried to ck results from a couple events and ran into a &^%$# roadblock. Trying to find other riders from my area to calm my wife. She says I'm too old to go racing alone 
. Is fakebook the only source now, old site was a breeze?
. Is fakebook the only source now, old site was a breeze?Tried to ck results from a couple events and ran into a &^%$# roadblock. Trying to find other riders from my area to calm my wife. She says I'm too old to go racing alone
Its kind of fiddly to use... pick an event from the 'select an event' combo-box, then you can pick from 'event classes' combo box, then click on 'CC Results' button, and -then- finally, click on the 'Class Session' combo-box and choose 'DIV::1::MOTO 1' and you'll see the results for that class.
You can skip some of that if you just want to see who is entered in a class by just doing: "Select an event", "event classes" combo-boxes, then click on 'Class Entries' button and you'll see who was entered.
Other buttons will show you different looks at this information, I've never tried all of them... I just do these two work-flows to check results in classes and so on.
Thank you. Perfect illustration of a site designed by a "geek" that frustrates, ridiculous. Old TORCS site was comp doofus(me) friendly, simple and quick.
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Well, I think MotoSponder is really just the site for the software TORCS uses to track racers. I don't think it's particularly affiliated with TORCS other than the latter is a client and so has this sort of 'client-side' interface made available by the MotoSponder developers.
The main TORCS site got hacked a while back I think and hasn't been rebuilt yet... so we're kind of stuck using MotoSponder to get results.
This same sort of system exists for the car-racing world as well... back when I did car racing stuff (road-racing and autocross), there was a website that hosted the 'transponder data' gathered for racing clubs that used their transponder system and then the various racing clubs that used that software had their own websites that published a friendlier interface to look at results data and would filter out/omit results from other clubs so you didn't have to sort through so much.
Not that any of that makes the experience you're having better, but I figure maybe it helps to know that the transponder site/software is prob not TORCS-owned and doesn't really owe TORCS members a pleasant experience, per-se.
Ahhh, the agony and the ecstasy…..
Luke and I did Sunday racing this month due to daughter’s burgeoning musical fame.
Luke lined up in Sport (13-29) C, and I left the line behind him in 30C. I knew I was inappropriately classed but wanted to get off the line as early as possible.
Course was great; it was quintessentially Goertz. We didn’t go under the bridge or play on that side of the property, but we got tons of elevation, fast open sections, and flowy single track. The elevation and tight stuff back in the woods kicked my butt and I’m feeling it today.
Long story short, I finished in front of 2 dudes who DNF and behind the rest of the pack. I passed a few dudes in the trees, so not everyone in front of me wound up being faster. I think I got 4 laps in.
Luke won his class by a margin, despite losing the top two subframe bolts and riding several laps with the entire back end sagging dangerously. I’m really grateful he wasn’t hurt. Bad part is, the air boot pulled away from the carb at some point. I pulled it apart and inspected the carb, reeds, and intake. Didn’t see anything more than a light coating of dust on the boot side of the carb. Fingers crossed, but I suppose time will tell if his engine becomes a time bomb.
If we weren’t planning on doing the TX2 2 hour on Saturday, I’d probably pulled the bottom end and rinse it. Bike still sounds great, so I might just roll with it for now. Hope everyone had as much fun as we did.
Luke and I did Sunday racing this month due to daughter’s burgeoning musical fame.
Luke lined up in Sport (13-29) C, and I left the line behind him in 30C. I knew I was inappropriately classed but wanted to get off the line as early as possible.
Course was great; it was quintessentially Goertz. We didn’t go under the bridge or play on that side of the property, but we got tons of elevation, fast open sections, and flowy single track. The elevation and tight stuff back in the woods kicked my butt and I’m feeling it today.
Long story short, I finished in front of 2 dudes who DNF and behind the rest of the pack. I passed a few dudes in the trees, so not everyone in front of me wound up being faster. I think I got 4 laps in.
Luke won his class by a margin, despite losing the top two subframe bolts and riding several laps with the entire back end sagging dangerously. I’m really grateful he wasn’t hurt. Bad part is, the air boot pulled away from the carb at some point. I pulled it apart and inspected the carb, reeds, and intake. Didn’t see anything more than a light coating of dust on the boot side of the carb. Fingers crossed, but I suppose time will tell if his engine becomes a time bomb.
If we weren’t planning on doing the TX2 2 hour on Saturday, I’d probably pulled the bottom end and rinse it. Bike still sounds great, so I might just roll with it for now. Hope everyone had as much fun as we did.
I had a 'good' day, short version: I holeshot my race!, first time ever. I had no idea what to do with myself, and almost immediately choked up the lead to whoever was behind me at the first big ditch crossing. That was not unexpected, I was nervous being in the lead and it was kind of a relief to be out of it.
I then got stymied by some cows and some more people passed me. Yep... cows.
Some cows were out on the course and a course worker was hollering at me to 'watch out for the cows!!' and I sort of slowed to a near stop to process this information since that's about the last thing I expected to hear at that moment... just as a couple or three cows sauntered out of the left-side brush and across my path... One cow decided to run along ahead of me down the trail, and the trail was starting to have a large split/rut at that point. There was a guy coming up on the left, I didn't want to 'merge' into the rut and risk a collision, so I was stranded on the right-side behind the cow as some of these interlopers I'll call them (more on that in a sec) passed to the left of the cow. It's all on video, I'll be posting that on youtubez later.
The cow finally got out of my way and I was able to continue...
I started to fade by mid-3rd lap, and fell apart 4th, hit the ground on 5th (not terribly bad, but it 'took the starch out of me' as Mark would say) and that was all she wrote... survival mode at that point... finished 6th, but the top 4 guys I think were just 'interlopers' there to one-shot the class and have a race amongst themselves, which, that's fine .. Open D is kind of a catch-all class I guess.
I consider my finish '2nd among the regulars' as a result... lol. Those top 4 were way faster than the rest of us regulars, they did 6 laps and prob would've finished at least upper 1/3 of Open C just going by how fast they disappeared after passing me.
I then got stymied by some cows and some more people passed me. Yep... cows.
Some cows were out on the course and a course worker was hollering at me to 'watch out for the cows!!' and I sort of slowed to a near stop to process this information since that's about the last thing I expected to hear at that moment... just as a couple or three cows sauntered out of the left-side brush and across my path... One cow decided to run along ahead of me down the trail, and the trail was starting to have a large split/rut at that point. There was a guy coming up on the left, I didn't want to 'merge' into the rut and risk a collision, so I was stranded on the right-side behind the cow as some of these interlopers I'll call them (more on that in a sec) passed to the left of the cow. It's all on video, I'll be posting that on youtubez later.
The cow finally got out of my way and I was able to continue...
I started to fade by mid-3rd lap, and fell apart 4th, hit the ground on 5th (not terribly bad, but it 'took the starch out of me' as Mark would say) and that was all she wrote... survival mode at that point... finished 6th, but the top 4 guys I think were just 'interlopers' there to one-shot the class and have a race amongst themselves, which, that's fine .. Open D is kind of a catch-all class I guess.
I consider my finish '2nd among the regulars' as a result... lol. Those top 4 were way faster than the rest of us regulars, they did 6 laps and prob would've finished at least upper 1/3 of Open C just going by how fast they disappeared after passing me.
Git along little Doggie! Hey, its Texas, be thankful for your blessings!
For sure!.. LOL... I wish I had the presence of mind to holler that for the video, would've been great!Git along little Doggie! Hey, its Texas, be thankful for your blessings!
Forgot to mention….i was first off the line and for a hot minute, was sure I was getting hole shot. Then I saw a tire appear to my right just as we entered the first turn. Probably had place 3 around that tree, when everyone with bigger stones than I gave it more throttle. Oh well. Felt good for a second.
Anyone have results from Sunday late race?
Anyone have results from Sunday late race?
First couple of laps and change of my race.
Results are up on new TORCS site.
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