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What use is TWT anyway? Is it important?

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What use is TWT anyway? Is it important?

Not sure how long I’ve been playing around on the TWT site, perhaps a year?

My use of TWT has been mostly for playing games like “Where am I”. Yeah it was fun (at times), but certainly not important? I did not bother with supporting this site because it was just a game. If this site were to go away, well no big loss to me. It’s was just silly games anyway. Ok, yeah it does pie runs, but I eat too much pie anyway.

Wow was I wrong!

Because of events of last week, I have had cause to reflect on things that are important. For those not aware of my recent events; view my Pikes Peak trip report on www.BeemerBob.com

How important is TWT? Very!! Would there be a loss if the TWT site were to cease? Most definitely! Obviously, upon my return home, I changed my status to Forum Supporter. A commitment of a small donation monthly to help keep this site going is not much to ask.

I was never in any danger, but I needed help. Some fellow TWT’s became aware of my situation and stated putting things in motion and posting my situation on TWT. Because I was out of state (New Mexico), a few TWTers then started making posts on ADV rider seeking assistance for me.

Being an old fart in my 60’s I have been around a while and involved in a lot different types of organization, but the brotherhood of motorcycle riders is like none other I have ever experienced. Once home, I was able to look on the Internet and determined there were about 400 folks following my situation and either concerned or offering assistance. Wow! While the New Mexico State Police did finally respond, I was extracted by members of ADV Rider that learned of my situation by my friends on TWT.

These two ADV rider folks traveled a long distance to come get me. They went to a great expense and time to get me. I offered to buy them lunch, put gas in their trucks, but the only thing they would accept was my promise to “pay it forward”. Is this representative of the type of people that participate in ADV rider or TWT? You bet!

The community of motorcycle riders is phenomenal. I can’t stop along side the road to rest, without concern that some other rider will stop and make sure I am OK. I’m not sure why. I suppose that it is because we participate in an activity that has an inherent level of risk, so by looking out for each other helps to minimize that risk.

TWT members, however, seem to take this community mentality to an even higher level. I now think of TWT as my family and how fortunate I am to have been accepted into this great family.

To my brothers and sisters within the TWT family, I wish to express my love and thanks for your concern for my well being. I hope there are others that will read this and understand how important it is for this forum to continue and upgrade their status to “Forum Supporter”.

Again, thank you. I was honored just by your concern.

EDIT: I made a post that describes problems with my rescue even though I had a SPOT. Some of you may find this informative stuff to know if you ever travel in remote area and think your SPOT device will make locatiing you in the event of an emergency easy. You would be wrong: That post is at:
http://www.twtex.com/forums/showthread.php?p=781105#post781105
 
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Squeaky

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TWT has meant a lot of things for me. Family. Support when I needed it. Friends when I felt alone. Prayer when life threw a curveball. Love when I least expected it.

:sun:
 
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I have to say I have not seen any other place where the brotherhood among people who barely know each other is so strong. Leaving Texas was extremely hard for me, and this site was one of those reasons! Maybe I should start a TWT Virginia Beach chapter!
 
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Wow this whole story makes me proud to ride. Glad you are o.k. and your experience will give the rest of us something to think about before we go out. Always let somebody know where you are heading.
 
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Glad your OK! What's your opinion of SPOT?
I need to do some more research as to what went wrong and what went right. If it had not been for SPOT, no one would have known I needed help. This time it was not life threatening, so no harm done. If I had been bleeding, to have taken 19 hours to find me could have been fatal. Even then, it took
helicopter to find me. Yes I was remote and on a bad road, I was still on a county road.

I will report back when I know more facts.
 

cdc

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#9
You certainly felt the 'value' of this site.
My decision to support was not so dramatic, but when I realized how much I enjoyed the organized rides, reading ride reports (such as yours) and received help / advise when I requested, I too decided that a small monthly contribution was due.

And of course, glad you are ok...
 
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Dang, and here I didn't even know you'd gone yet. I'll have to read up.

I have to say, seems motorcyclists all over are great and look out for each other. I was at a trackday and my bike broke down and there was no way I could finish without the part needed. No one had any spares (not your usual break) and some guy I'd never met till that day tossed me the keys to his gsx-r750 and said "I'm tired and my rehabbing wound is hurting, take mine for the rest of the day."

Great folks out there, can't wait to read up on your "Adventure."
 
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I have a first generation SPOT and when I switch to the other messages (help and okay) it will cancel the 911 that is going out. 911 is continuous until canceled and help and okay are just 20 minute attempts. In your case I would have left it going on 911 until I was found. I have no idea how it works with the SPOT 2 though.

And yes, this is a great place to find help.
 
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I gotta say.......I was in law enforcement for better than 17 years. I thought that brotherhood could not be bettered but from what I've learned from the motorcycling community.....I think I've found a more supportive group.

I rode with the Patriot Guard for a little over 2 years until the emotional strain just got too large. I learned then and there that the motorcycling community is one that can not be categorized or explained. I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with folks that, had I met them in an alley I would have been very cautious. And then I watched them weep like children right along with me.

We're all human. If we could all find a common thread to bond us together, we'd all live together better. Check out the story below. If they can do it, why can't we? We're supposedly smarter and more advanced than dogs and elephants:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBtFTF2ii7U

Bob, glad you made it home. Thanks for posting this. :thumb:
 
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Glad you're ok Bob and looking forward to the full story. I'd agree that the 2 wheeled people look out for each other than any other group I've seen.

Just before I bought my first bike I was driving home late one night to find a really old guy on a bike at the entrance to my driveway, he was out of gas. We parked the bike and I loaded him up and we went home, found a gas can, drove 7 miles to the nearest gas station, and got him on his way. He insisted on topping off my gas tank despite my arguments and told me he was an accountant in Cushing TX and that he or his Son would handle any of my tax affairs free of charge going forward. I haven't seen him since, but still think of him.

A few weeks later I got my 1st bike and ran out of gas on the same stretch of road. I was walking about a mile to the nearest gas station and another young guy on a GSXR 750 stopped to help. He ended up missing his lunch date with some girl at school to help me get some gas and get back on the road.

You couldn't find better people. I always try to pay it forward when I get the chance. :zen:
 
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I feel ya main!

I have a similar story myself. I was looking to get some riding pants and a TWT member gave me some...

...OK, not really the same nor as dramatic. :doh:

But I like these guys too. Oh crap, now I'm getting all teary-eyed! :giveup:
 
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Excellent story, Bob. In the end, while it didn't work out, you gave it a great shot, and you can always try again.

I'm fortunate that I haven't had need of assistance, but it is great to know there is a community of people that are friendly and supportive, and will go out of their way to help each other.

Glad to hear everything worked out OK.

Keep the shiny side up!
 
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I enjoy the riding stories and the general information as well. I rode for many, many years when I was stationed in Florida. Now that I'm riding the hills of East Texas, with the nice two-lane back roads, it's great!

BTW, the other day I heard a neat song by a Cory Morrow - "Texas Time Travelin'" It's pretty neat and fits well with traveling around our great state on two wheels!
 
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Bob, WOW what a story! I was in the military for 21 years and loved the sense of family but I have to say the brotherhood I've experienced in my short time on this board is amazing, as you are living proof.

I'm very glad you are ok, God bless!
 
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Resurrecting an old thread. Now I know why you have been paying it forward, and being at your place last weekend was a huge blessing. Thank you and Thee Saint, happy trails, and we will see you soon again.
 

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Interesting question, what use TWT Forum, and the participants (yes there are people behind all the posts) ?

Ok, I am going to uncork a bit here. I came and went to two motorcycle forums in the past four to five years. One was a local Houston forum, composed mostly of young riders. I participated a lot when I was new back into riding. And, I learned a LOT about freeway riding, general strategies, safety and such. Yet, I found the forum culture to often be just plain nasty. Negative commentary and snark were common, and Admin could care less. After a series of pretty nasty and rude comments on my questions and experiences, I just left, good bye.

Next was the Moto Guzzi forum as I ride one of the gorgeous Italian transverse V-twins. I did my very best to be a positive contributor. I learned a lot about the quirky bikes. Even met up with some local members and for nearly five years participated, had fun and made some virtual friends. About a month ago an Admin and several members got into trying to force me into attending a rally upcoming early this October. I wanted to go, I really did, but I have prior commitments and priorities. And longer distance riding on my Guzzi is very hard on my body. Nobody cared, and pressure mounted that got beyond my tolerance. So, unfortunately, I got very angry and deleted my account and left. I have mixed feelings, but in the end: were they friends? Were they kind? Were they tolerant of who I really am? Did they respect that at age 62 I might just be able to manage my own life? Nope. Very frustrating experience. I am still angry and disappointed.

Same experience with a personality type forum. Very difficult and wounding experience. Many of the forum participants I considered close friends, and yes I had seen them multiple times face to face. Admin turned on me, deliberately misunderstanding the written posts without context of facial and body language-- and allowing some members to go on vicious attacks. So, I left.

So, what is different here? I see an Admin enforcing respect. Christian values are applied. I think that TWT is a better place? Time will tell. Simply hold each other up. Do unto others...

As an introvert, I struggle at times with face to face meetings with new people. Large groups can really intimidate me. And this from a very mature retired guy, who has trod the Sahara sands of Tunisia, Libya and Egypt and drilled $150 million wells and raised a family and stayed married almost 30 years. Many do not "get" introverts: groups and small talk can drain our energy dramatically. But, we can be great to have around as we actually listen, are usually deep thinkers, and great story tellers in the right setting.

Enough I guess. Thanks for listening. Remember that even a few kind words can make a huge difference in someone's life. And words, like an arrow, once loosed -- cannot be taken back. So be careful when you speak or type.
 

cdc

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Old, timeless thread.
I think, respect is what makes this forum great. I hope you will continue to contribute and benefit from TWT.
 

Crew Chief

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...As an introvert, I struggle at times with face to face meetings with new people. Large groups can really intimidate me. And this from a very mature retired guy, who has trod the Sahara sands of Tunisia, Libya and Egypt and drilled $150 million wells and raised a family and stayed married almost 30 years. Many do not "get" introverts: groups and small talk can drain our energy dramatically. But, we can be great to have around as we actually listen, are usually deep thinkers, and great story tellers in the right setting....
I get it. I don't generally like the bigger gathering either, but I'll go to some of them and just break it down into smaller groups, or go off on my own if I need some air. I'm old enough and stubborn enough that I'm only going to do what I'm going to do. Nobody will accuse me of being a good story teller though.

I do agree that this is a good place to be, I participated in a well moderated woodworking bulletin board several years ago and the mod kept all of the responsibility to himself and wore himself out. It finally came to an end. I wish he had seen Scot's model. Maybe it would still be around.
 
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Lucydad, I first ran across you on the Guzzi site and enjoyed your posts, but there were times I felt I was being put down for being old school and fixing or repairing my bikes my way. I'm an extrovert and may be known to over do somethings, but the folks here seem to like this old coot, as I've allowed them to become a part of my family.
 

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I do agree that this is a good place to be, I participated in a well moderated woodworking bulletin board several years ago and the mod kept all of the responsibility to himself and wore himself out. It finally came to an end. I wish he had seen Scot's model. Maybe it would still be around.
:tab It helped a LOT to set a standard early on and to really work at sticking with it. Once the users figured out what I was trying to do and that I was serious about it, my work load dropped tremendously. The users began self moderating for the most part and generally were patient with training the newcomers to the site. It wasn't until the number of members really started growing that I had to bring in some help. It got to the point where I simply could not read every single post and stay on top of every little brush fire.

:tab Time away every now and then also helps a LOT ;-)

:tab I am glad you guys (and gals :-P) enjoy the forum as much as you do :thumb:
 

mitchntx

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As an introvert, I struggle at times with face to face meetings with new people. Large groups can really intimidate me.
Whoa ... it's like I wrote that.

I feel your pain ... I have to make a substantial effort to meet and greet new folks, wiggle my way into a crowd ...

Like toastmasters, the more I do it, the less painful it becomes. Doesn't diminish the effort required, but the benefits of putting oneself out there are tremendous.

I've been on email lists, BBSs and forums for 25 years. Admin, moderated, participated, developed, have been chastised, attacked, stalked, stunned, banned and dumped.

One truism I have learned is that this is the internet and not real life.
 
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I believe you'll discover the general attitude of cordial accommodation found here also extends to gatherings and events. As GravelGuy once said "I visit other motorcycle forums but TWT is like my hometown." That pretty well summed it up.

Do we have our little spats from time to time? Yep. Since the early days of computer bulletin boards the anonymous nature of keyboard communication has tempted folks to vent passions and unchecked emotions that wouldn't happen in person. Feelings still get hurt. Over the years I've met and ridden with most - or all - of the moderators here. Every one of them share the belief of building people up - not tearing them down. I've seen them step in and close a thread when the situation required. I've seen them remove inflammatory posts that poisoned an otherwise worthy discussion. Heavy handed? So are traffic lights but we all seem to be better off.

We ride motorcycles here. Some for only a short while and others for a lifetime. We have youth and exuberance and we have maturity and experience. You'll find people here that you enjoy being with. No one gets left behind.
 
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To build a little bit on what _RG_ said, the fact that we ride together goes a long way toward civility. Eventually everyone of us will end up across the table from other forum users. I met _RG_ on a random group ride and if history holds, am just as likely to run into Gravel Guy through serendipity as an organized forum ride. Other regional forums are similar. The D37 forum in Southern California is an example where people are focused on riding, rather than combative social criticism and commentary so common on national boards like ADV Rider. I could point to other regional or club examples as well as one or two exceptions.

TWT is more diverse than it might first appear. There are enough opportunities to "self select" the people you want to ride with and what to discuss. I'm not interested in religion as a social institution, so I'm never reading or posting on the prayer threads. Likewise, I always read the XR650 thread because it has become a hangout for the thumper riders in my area, XR owners or not. I used to dabble in photography so every so often I go to see what others are doing (some of it is getting impressive, BTW.) Come join the party or don't look over the fence... your choice.

I know a couple of people who prefer to remain behind their avatar and that's okay. But overall this is a small town climate and we run into everybody at the HEB eventually.

m
 
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For me, discovering the TWT forum was a true God send. I have had a life long profound love of 2 wheels. But the guys I grew up riding with all stopped many decades ago, then we dispersed to assume our adult life roles and slowly lost track of one another. I felt like I wondered in the darkness for nearly 4 decades, wishing I still had a brotherhood of friends who were all about seeking the two wheeled fun in life. I so missed having an outlet for my pent up riding desires, & a network of fellow off road enthusiasts to have fellowship with. Discovering TWT suddenly ended my 40 years of wondering alone in the desert. Additionally, there is a myriad of practical assistance with technical problems or projects. At anytime one chooses, you can tap right into this vast pooled knowledge about all things motorcycle which TWT offers. Lastly, and equally huge for me was the ability to learn of and then attend off road riding events. Riding by yourself just isn't as fun and exciting as sharing the combined riding experiences of an entire group. I desperately needed acess to a like minded bunch of dirt heads, and true blue riders. I wondered around for decades thinking I was the only guy who hadn't outgrown his boyhood desires to spend as much time as possible on a dirt bike & live the life style of a dual sport vagabond. Discovering this rider forum profoundly changed and enhanced my life! I now know many kindred souls who love the outdoors and bikes just as much as myself. I shall remain forever great full!
 
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TWT is a great community. Lots great folks and good friends. Some that I've been able to meet in person and some that I haven't had the pleasure of their handshake yet.
 
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I don't get over here that often, and I haven't got to meet anyone yet, but I'm glad TWT is here!

Once I can get a bike running reliably, I definitely want to meet up with some of the members here! :mrgreen:
 
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#38
Everyone's name should be green!
I mean really, if you can't afford to give $5 a month, you can't afford to ride a motorcycle.
This site has connected me to lifelong friends and is full of so much beneficial and fun information.
Thankyou Scott and all who help with keeping this site going!
 
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