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Who all leaves 'em stock?

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Who(m) all here believes in riding your steeds as they come off the line; stock, non-molested, uncorrupted, without sin, etc.? Mostly I'm talking engine, suspension, fancy rolling stock, ultra lightweight this or that.

I'm asking because this was a recent topic on one of the Harley forums. Many think it's necessary to modify and others think they perform just fine stock for what they are.

In my own case, I have two bikes that I should have recognized as "what they are" bikes and have traded riding time for modding time. Looking back, it's senseless how much I've spent trying to fix a Harley that, come to find out, wasn't broke! I've been getting away with cheap stuff on the KLR (and the all important doo), but with quite a few Benjamins I could turn it into a cross between a KTM, a Versys, and an Abrams. That would 1) drain my account, 2) my marriage would end, 3) I wouldn't ride hardly at all because I'd just be modding all the time. With some restraint, I'll be able to just leave them both alone from now on.

What about the various bikes/riders on here?
 
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I never change exhaust, cams, or other fancy engine stuff to get better performance. My motorcycles have always been able to out perform me. I do add farkles and such, but the only mod I've ever done was going down one tooth on the front sprocket on my Strom. Just did that.
 
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I'd like to upgrade the suspension on my Shadow 1100, and I have additional storage, windshield, and a highway bar, but I'm not into modifications. The bike works well as it is.

I guess for me it depends on what you consider a modification and what you consider a farkle.
 
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Functional farkles only for me on the DR, no messing with carb, pipe, airbox or motor. Functional for me is mostly suspension, ergos, fuel capacity, and protection.

That said, if I had a different daily rider I'd be tempted to mess with those other things... or like you said, just save all the farkling money and buy a KTM :eek2:
 
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My F650GS is pretty much stock. I enjoy riding, but I am not an agressive rider. I probably would not see much difference between an OEM part and an improved aftermarket.

I am going to get the chance to learn, though. My OEM shock needs replacing, and the Ohlins unit for my bike was about $300 cheaper.

I am definitely going to do something with the seat. IMHO, the 650GS is a great little bike. Why BMW does so good on the bike, and so crappy on the seat is a mystery.

Jeff
 
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I'm in the same boat as Coolhand. I'll setup the suspension for my weight, change handlebars for my liking, add a seat for more stretch between the seat and the pegs, and panniers to carry my camping stuff in. Then I added crash bars to keep it from getting beat up after all the times I've dropped it, and a skid plate for bouncing off of the rocks.
 
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I love fiddling with my bikes to try and improve them. An exhaust, PC3, and upgraded suspension on the VFR make alot of difference on the performance end. Helibars, a Sargent seat, and a Givi topbox do wonders for it's touring capability. If you've got a bike that you enjoy, why wouldn't you want to try and make it better? Lucky you if you think your bike is perfect as-is, but I think most riders can find some fault with their steeds...
 
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risers/bars/crash protection is about my farkle limit. i leave the engine/exhaust alone.

crash protection pays for itself, i know mine paid for itself several times over this past week :doh:.
 

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I think I've changed the exhaust systems on every bike I've owned over 750CC. Uusually to drop weight, sometimes just to improve the character (specifically my old Superhawk which transformed from lawn tractor to a superbike with good help from Two Brothers).

Seats - yes.

Windscreens - usually.

Engine internals - rarely.
 
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Preformance is fine from the factory , a little fine tuning to suite my taste and suspension setup and I am good to go . I spend my money when I buy it , not after I get it home . SEYA
 
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Pretty much stock here. Dealer added couple of small things, gatlin tips, L1S1, and heel to toe shifter. And I added a taller windshield, since I am a bit tall.
 
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Notice how many people are saying - pretty much stock except this and that...oh and this...and maybe one of those too...and if I had the money definitely one of those. Motorcycling appeals to the individualistic nature in us. And it appeals to the mechanically capable (at least in our own minds). So the vast majority of riders do things to make the bike reflect their own tastes, needs, and lifestyles. Mod away, my friends, mod away.
 

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No motorcycle I own, or have owned has ever remained stock as delivered from the factory.

No system or sub assembly is safe :lol:

In my garage tonight.
The VTR has non stock parts in every assembly or sub assembly except the transmission....unless you consider the shifter or chain drive system as part of the transmission,, then that’s part is covered too.

The Ninja 650R has body, engine, and suspension mods.

The DRZ 485.. Every part, literally every part has been modified or replaced with non stock except the snap rings in the transmission.

The RM250.. Engine, suspension mods..

The CR125....the frame may still be OEM and unmolested.

The CRF230.. Engine, exhaust, suspension are all modded.

The ......ok that’s enough for now... the point is.. No, I don’t leave them as delivered.
 

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On the dirt/serious DS bikes I rejet and open airboxes, but no perf mods beyond that. Those are good bang for the buck changes. Exhaust is expensive for small gains in those cases, plus I like stealth riding. I do change ergo things like bars and grips. larger tanks too and skidplates/crash guards. Nothing that I would call cosmetic though. Stock plastics.

For the BMW I ordered a little power dohickey that will fix a low rpm flat spot, but that was a rideability fix in my opinion, not a performance upgrade. It has all the other stuff except a really good seat. Stock is acceptable so it will stay for a while.

So do I leave them stock? No, but I don't rush out and change them. I ride them and make changes as I go. It's part of the fun. Eventually I'll hit the point where it is more than I want to spend on a bike for the next change. Then I'm done or it is time to more on to a bike that doesn't have those limitations.
 
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on my 12th or so bike and have NEVER touched the engine, exhaust or frame.
Functional farkles only for me, never just add chrome or anything just for looks.

if you keep modifying the engine, exhaust or frame you have not bought the correct bike for yourself.
 
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My stuff stays pretty close to stock, but it's not because of any belief I have...I just have a hard time shelling out the kind of cash usually required for motorcycle parts/accessories.
 
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on my 12th or so bike and have NEVER touched the engine, exhaust or frame.
Functional farkles only for me, never just add chrome or anything just for looks.

if you keep modifying the engine, exhaust or frame you have not bought the correct bike for yourself.
I don't think I agree with you. Probably don't need to modify a frame, but engine and exhaust? My bike was a dream right off the showroom, but over time I learned that with some modifications (recommended by the dealer, ecu, airbox mods, carbon fiber exhaust) I could improve performance, lose weight, run cooler, and probably improve longevity. If some after market company comes out with some cans that are lighter than mine and look like Atlas ICBM nozzle holes I'll upgrade again.:lol2:
 
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I leave engine internals alone (except for camming up Evo Harleys). Other than that, I mod them till my wallet says ouch. Mostly performance these days, but sometimes appearance, too.
 
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just the basics on my DR. Got that great Sargent seat(one of the single BEST accessories I ever bought), some heavier progressive fork springs to better carry my cop gut around, and a front bag that mounts over headlight and tankbag. Have a Pro-Moto luggage rack. Oh, added a Unifilter air filter and noticed a difference over the stock filter. No engine or exhaust mods.
 
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I have left by F800GS completely stock.

Well, except for the stuff they should have put on there to begin with such as -

Givi Top Case and Side Case Adapters
Givi V46 Top Case
Givi E43 Side Cases (Side Cases and Adapters only mounted for trips)
Cortech Mini Tank bag
Rizoma Brake Fluid Reservior
Adventure Spec Crash Bars
Adventure Spec Bash Plate
Rivco Highway Iso-Pegs
Ram Ball Mount (for GPSMap 76CSx)
BarkBusters
PowerBronze Rear Hugger
Hepco Becker Headlight Guard
Rox Risers
Puck-Up (Larger sidestand footprint)
Wunderlich Driving Lights (Still in the Box)
Corbin Seat
Two Brother's Slip On
 
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Engine and exhaust remain stock. Cast rims instead of the spokes (easier to clean when I do clean it). Boss Bags mods on the saddle bags. I've done the load pipes thing and have come to my senses about the load pipe thing. Stock works just fine thank you very much.
 

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Ergos and function mods.

TW: sprockets and o-ring chain (ratios selected for anticipated conditions), better tires for dirt, taller aluminum bars, better grips, brush guards, extra wheels with street tires, better brake pads and shoes, Barnett clutch 4-gallon tank, top box, rejet carb, LEDs everywhere else, Sterns seat pad.

Planning another TW with fewer miles: all above plus 276cc, ~25hp engine, 6-speed trans, 6-plate clutch, custom reverse cone megaphone stainless exhaust with USDA approved spark arrestor, 32MM Mikuni square slide with custom airbox and filter, triple hydraulic discs, adjustable shock and forks, dual HID headlights, front and rear racks. Maybe ATV rear tire, 180/80-14 front tire.

CB: mini crash bars, luggage rack, throw-over soft bags, sterns seat pad.

Future mods will be better brake pads and shoes, rear shocks, drop a tooth on the countershaft, o-ring chain, grips, HID headlight.
 

kurt

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I add cases, GPS and other accessories, but leave the intake and exhaust stock these days. Suspension is bike dependant.
 
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I've just spent a lot of time a little money and with help from fellow TWTers putting my new to me 05 DRZ back to box stock original condition right down to the Trailwing tires, I love the way the Zs look right out of the box. SZ.
 
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:lol2:

I have left by F800GS completely stock.

Well, except for the stuff they should have put on there to begin with such as -

Givi Top Case and Side Case Adapters
Givi V46 Top Case
Givi E43 Side Cases (Side Cases and Adapters only mounted for trips)
Cortech Mini Tank bag
Rizoma Brake Fluid Reservior
Adventure Spec Crash Bars
Adventure Spec Bash Plate
Rivco Highway Iso-Pegs
Ram Ball Mount (for GPSMap 76CSx)
BarkBusters
PowerBronze Rear Hugger
Hepco Becker Headlight Guard
Rox Risers
Puck-Up (Larger sidestand footprint)
Wunderlich Driving Lights (Still in the Box)
Corbin Seat
Two Brother's Slip On
 
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I'm done or it is time to move on to a bike that doesn't have those limitations.
Given your current bike I'd bet you're done. It's limitations are pretty minor and none are enough to overshadow how well it does everything else.

Panniers, crash bars, throttle lock, Corbin, GPS, winglets in Winter, headlight guard, Touratech footprint (that seems silly until you set the fat girl on the side stand in soft dirt/mud). Previous owner installed Remus headers/exhaust which worked nicely with my Jesse luggage, but I wouldn't have dropped the coin on that for the relatively small increase in power.

Gearing/chain on the Duc, but that only increased it's useable power.

If it's not functional I don't need it, I don't do chrome. Stock engine/suspension is fine for me.
 
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I am usually happy with most bikes in the OEM mode except the seat and windscreen. They are always removed in favor of better aftermarket options.
 
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No motorcycle I own, or have owned has ever remained stock as delivered from the factory.

No system or sub assembly is safe :lol:

In my garage tonight.
The VTR has non stock parts in every assembly or sub assembly except the transmission....unless you consider the shifter or chain drive system as part of the transmission,, then that’s part is covered too.

The Ninja 650R has body, engine, and suspension mods.

The DRZ 485.. Every part, literally every part has been modified or replaced with non stock except the snap rings in the transmission.

The RM250.. Engine, suspension mods..

The CR125....the frame may still be OEM and unmolested.

The CRF230.. Engine, exhaust, suspension are all modded.

The ......ok that’s enough for now... the point is.. No, I don’t leave them as delivered.
:rofl: Nothing I own is stock!!:mrgreen: It's a sickness I tell you, A SICKNESS!!! :twitch: :lol2: :loco:
 
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I see any bike as a blank canvass, just waiting for me to modify it to my personal taste.

04 YZ125 - Left totally stock except for muffler, that only because the stock one needed repacking and I was too lazy.

06 Spirit 750 - It's a cruiser, so naturally I've modded the exhaust, mirrors, lights, pegs, changed sprocket to 39 tooth instead of 42 tooth. Next up is removing the stock graphics that are just stickers and airbrushing the flames back onto the tank.
 
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My 1984 VF700 is all stock....... But everything seams to suite the way I ride, so I guess I consider myself lucky......
 
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None of my bikes has the stock suspension cause I ain't 150 lbs dripping wet like those Japanese and European riders that the bikes are designed around. :rofl:
 
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Since my bike will definitely out perform me, and some pretty smart engineers worked out all the details, I'll leave the running gear stock. I've added a few bits aimed at making my GS500F more travel worthy, touring screen, ber risers, saddle bags, clock.

Keep the shiny side up,

Chuck
 
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I'm new enough to riding that I don't have much experience one way or the other (it's not terribly impressive or meaningful that I've left my little Ninja 500 stock for the, uhh, month and a half I've been riding)...but in principle, I'm thinking about motorcycles the same way I think about my guns:

For the most part, I trust the engineers at ________ to know what makes a good machine better than I trust myself.

For some small changes, sure, I can see myself taking the plunge. Aftermarket seat, different design/width/material on the footpegs, little stuff like that (just like I'll try new sights on my Glock, put plastic furniture on my AK, or whatever)...but, by and large, I acknowledge that they're paid to design the things, and I'm just along for the ride.

Little cosmetic and comfort changes I'll go for, but anything major? I'm likely to leave it to the experts that designed the thing in the first place. :)
 
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I have spent more time and money putting the bikes I have now back stock than I have customizing them.
Two of my bikes had custom seats on them when they came to me, I have changed them both back to stock seats and there much more comfortable.
The GS came with a Y-pipe and aftermarket Muffler, which I changed back to the cat-and stock muffler. It is much more pleasant to be around now.
The GS I have installed new shocks front and rear, but that came to be after 75,000 miles on the original ones.
Guess that is why I choose the brand bike's I own. I do not feel compelled to "FIX" them as soon as I acquire them.
 
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My DRZ has case savers, rad guards, stuff to make it a bit harder to break.

The tail light assy was replaced because it was just begging to get torn off.

When the carb clogged I did the rejet and 3x3 and reverted to stock exhaust.

The FMF just attracted dogs.

My ZRX is almost stock...comfort mods, and a luggage rack.

The GS is close to stock except comfort mods and the PO's canisterectomy.
 
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Hmm... Stock, eh? All my bikes stayed stock until something went out or was damaged.

My current bike has an exhaust pipe on it from the previous owner. There was a significant bit of tuning into it in the airbox, jetting, and on a dyno. I have been reluctant to try to swap back to the OEM setup, at the same time, I long to have the quiet of the stock muffler.

The seat got a hole in it, so I duck-taped the seat until I found another stock one on a FZ1 site for $50. I am considering an aftermarket seat for the first time, since the second stock seat has a hole in it now in the same place.

The suspension was shot around 25k, so it got the Traxxion and Penske treatment (a first time mod for me which has been FABULOUS!!!)

I finally got tired of plastic bags leaking in soft luggage and sprang for Givi kit.

On previous bikes:
2 prior bikes had aftermarket exhaust following a crash, insurance paid, OEM exhaust pipes were hundreds of $$$ more than aftermarket pipes. I was a broke college student and Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet. I really hated having aftermarket pipes.
 
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s front and rear, but that came to be after 75,000 miles on the original ones.
Guess that is why I choose the brand bike's I own. I do not feel compelled to "FIX" them as soon as I acquire them.
Funny, considering the GS has one of the largest aftermarket parts availabilty out there. Guess a lot of owners don't agree with you on that one :lol2:

75K on the original shocks, that's awesome! Mine were toast at 24K on my '04.
 
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"why would you spend that much money to change the sound of dirty air" - Squeaky:giveup:
 
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New '08 v-strom...
1. Madstad windscreen bracket
2. Audiovox cruise control
3. Sargent seat
4. Cal-Sci windshield
5. Center stand
6. Bags and top case
7. redrill top rack to move top case back 2 inches
8. Conti Road Attacks
9. GPS

Now it's just about right..... time for a new bike!!
 
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