Got these at New Enough, found them in the Closeout section. Ordered the 34-36, they fit well on the large size. I'm 5-9 195lbs and wear 36 Wranglers. The TM pants are big enough to wear as overpants, which is how I intend to use them. The material is 600 Denier Carbolex®, but it's on the thin side. I don't think I'd want to wear these directly against my skin in a slide. They easily went over my jeans and are a comfortable fit while on the bike. The only downside is they don't have an zippered leg for pulling over boots. You have to put on the pants and then put on your boots. But for $39.99 it's not a big deal. If you want a zippered leg the Tour Master Quest Textile Pants that has that feature at a price of $62.99. But I'm thrifty (OK, cheap ) and can live without extra zippers.